About this podcast
Both Sides Now was co-founded in 2022 by Eve McCallum and Finn Ross, who could see the increasing polarisation and the decreasing youth engagement in politics. They wanted to show that you could disagree politically and still be great mates. The show interviewed a range of high-profile politicians and journalists from across the political spectrum, including 6 Prime Ministers, 4 party leaders and 2 journalists.
The show is back for election year 2026, and with Finn now being based in the UK, Alex Martin is stepping up to fill the left-leaning co-host role. Not only will the show continue its work to break down political polarisation and increase youth engagement, but it will do so with a new focus on women in politics. Eve and Alex have both seen the unfounded, increased vitriol towards female politicians in recent years, and we want to give them a chance to share their stories and educate and inspire other women to step up and become politicians.
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Episodes
The newest 20 of 72 episodes
- Less than a week to go until election day! · 1 h 1 min · Season 4 Episode 36This week on Both Sides Now, it's the final countdown. Just ONE WEEK until E day, and we're wrapping up the campaign with a look at where things stand, how we're both feeling and…
- Attacks on politicians, the last round of debates and electorates to watch · 1 h 0 min · Season 4 Episode 35This week on Both Sides Now, we’re talking political attacks, debate drama and the electorates that could decide E night. We discuss the attack on Helen Haines and the wider…
- Youth voting, debates, gangs and child cancer treatment · 1 h 0 min · Season 4 Episode 34This week on Both Sides Now, we’re kicking things off with a bit of international chaos, from Shane Gillis’ monologue to Trump reportedly giving his press secretary just five…
- Debates, billionaires, the latest policy drop and strategic voting · 57 min · Season 4 Episode 33This week on Both Sides Now, we’re breaking down the election debates, the latest policy drops, and whether strategic voting could shake up the election. We kick things off with…
- The Tax Tea Part Two with Shamubeel Eaqub · 42 min · Season 4 Episode 32We’ve talked tax with Brad Olsen. Now we’re hearing it from a different angle. This time on Both Sides Now, we’re joined by Simplicity economist Shamubeel Eaqub to ask some…
- The Tax Tea Part One with Brad Olsen · 1 h 6 min · Season 4 Episode 31Tax is everywhere in this election — but how much are politicians actually telling us? This week on Both Sides Now, we sit down with economist Brad Olsen to spill The Tax Tea…
- What is dirty work and is it really dirty? this weeks policy drop and the last week in parliament · 1 h 0 min · Season 4 Episode 30We kick things off with the Hager book — the latest political bombshell making waves in Wellington. We get into what’s in it, the reaction it’s sparked, and what it all means…
- Dr Mike Turner demystifies polls, AI in politics and campaigning · 58 min · Season 4 Episode 29This week on Both Sides Now, we’re joined by Freshwater Strategy's Dr Mike Turner, International pollster and political researcher, for a chat about pretty much everything you…
- Ed v Mackelmore, more supermarket policy, training wages for u20s, and more! · 49 min · Season 4 Episode 28This week on Both Sides Now, we kick things off with Ed Sheeran vs Macklemore, has Ed made the right call? Then we get into the big policy stories of the week: National entering…
- A whistlestop tour of the NINE new policies announced this week · 52 min · Season 4 Episode 27This week on Both Sides Now, we’re doing a political whistlestop tour because all the parties decided to do a policy dump this week. We start with the Green's KiwiMart. We then…
- Student loans, women's health policy and climate change · 47 min · Season 4 Episode 26This week on Both Sides Now we kick things off with National’s student loan policy. What is National actually proposing, who stands to benefit, and does it meaningfully change…
- Mike Casey on what politicians can do to make your petrol and power bills cheaper · 57 min · Season 4 Episode 25We sit down with Rewiring Aotearoa's Mike Casey for a wide-ranging conversation about one of the biggest costs facing New Zealanders: energy. We get into power and petrol, and…
- Te Pāti Māori, an adult conversation on tax (is that even possible?) and leaders debates · 52 min · Season 4 Episode 24This week on the podcast, we get stuck into Te Pāti Māori’s decision to campaign for the candidate vote only and what it means for MMP, the Māori electorates and the wider…
- Leadership coup round 2, Opportunity on 8%, and Labour who? · 46 min · Season 4 Episode 23This week on the podcast: leadership coup round two. And somehow, it was even more of a mess. If you are feeling overwhelmed by it all, don't worry, so are we! We unpack what…
- Laura McClure on AI deep fakes, voting Labour and the manosphere · 1 h 0 min · Season 4 Episode 22This week on Both Sides Now we sit down with ACT MP Laura McClure for a wide-ranging conversation about her journey into politics and some of the issues she’s been pushing since…
- Youth unemployment and the future of work, ruling out Opportunity and AI data centers · 54 min · Season 4 Episode 21It's a slightly longer episode this week, but there was no shortage of topics to cover. We start by briefly discuss Winston Peters' latest remarks before turning to one of the…
- Stuart Nash (gross), consent laws and funflation · 45 min · Season 4 Episode 20Another busy week in politics, and we're unpacking the stories behind the headlines. We start with the fallout from Stuart Nash's comments suggesting women who take time off to…
- Celebrity politicians, Count Binface and a wahs jersey · 44 min · Season 4 Episode 19This week we're talking celebrity politicians after Paul Henry announced he's standing for ACT. Is this the start of a trend, or just another reminder that politics and…
- What are politicians doing to help reduce your power bill? Plus social media bans, citizens voting and Matariki · 49 min · Season 4 Episode 18This week on Both Sides Now, we unpack two similar approaches to making solar power more accessible by National and Labour. Despite being from opposite sides of the spectrum we…
- What is going on with the Conservation Amendment Bill? Plus emergency housing, Opportunity and AI ads · 46 min · Season 4 Episode 17This week on the podcast we're unpacking the Conservation Amendment Bill and separating the facts from the politics. There's been plenty of debate about what the Bill actually…







