Energy Frenemies
by Aliya Haq, Rich Powell, and Dr. Vijay Swarup
Latest episode
What makes clean energy "clean"?
What makes clean energy "clean"?
About this podcast
Energy Frenemies is a new podcast from CleanEcon, hosted by Aliya Haq (President, CleanEcon), Vijay Swarup (retired Vice President, ExxonMobil), and Rich Powell (CEO, CEBA). Three very different backgrounds, one North Star: America needs energy that's reliable, cheap, and clean. Getting there is where it gets interesting.
Episodes
- What makes clean energy "clean"? · 34 min · Episode 3What makes clean energy “clean” and why is everyone always fighting about it? Aliya, Vijay, and Rich called in their first guest, Sara Chieffo, to dig into it together. She is…
- Is Net-Zero The Wrong Goal? · 35 min · Episode 2The UN settled on net-zero emissions by 2050 as a global climate goal, and now everyone—from scientists to policymakers to corporate leaders—uses it. But after saying "net-zero…
- Energy Tribes · 30 min · Episode 1Aliya is a veteran of the environmental movement, Vijay is a retired ExxonMobil executive, and Rich is a conservative clean energy leader. What could they possibly agree on?…
- Meet the Frenemies · 2 minWhat happens when a veteran environmentalist, a former ExxonMobil executive, and a conservative clean energy leader host an energy podcast together? Meet Energy Frenemies — a new…







