About this podcast
Welcome to Exit Point - A podcast about the advancement of BASE jumping and the exploration of its culture.
Whether you‘re curious about getting into BASE, passionate about mountain sports, want to learn how top adventure athletes approach risk assessment or are even a 2000 jump expert, you‘re sure to pick up tidbits of actionable advice on best practices or gain new perspectives when you listen to Exit Point.
Laurent Frat and Matt Blank draw on their experience and network of professional jumpers to gain a deeper understanding of all things BASE.
Episodes
The newest 50 of 68 episodes
- #71 Stane Krajnc: Old School to New Heights · 47 min · Episode 72In this episode, Sam Hardy hosts living legend Stane Krajnc. They discuss what Stane has observed and learned after decades of BASE jumping and the innovative process that he…
- #70 Scott Paterson: Full Froth · 53 min · Episode 71Former guest Tim Howell hosts his longtime friend Scott Patterson, who is a professional wingsuit athlete, extreme sports media producer and demonstration jumper. Hailing…
- #69 Jimmy Peterson: Child's Play · 1 h 17 min · Episode 70In this episode Matt Blank hosts Jimmy Peterson as they examine the legal and ethical issues involved in tandem BASE jumping with minors.
- #68 Lewis Jones: The Leader of Lemmings · 1 h 50 min · Episode 69Hosted by Sam Hardy, this episode dives into the shadowed world of urban BASE jumping with Lewis Jones, one of the most infamous building jumpers in the history of BASE jumping.
- #67 Feral the Good C#%t · 2 h 17 min · Episode 68This installment of Exit Point was pulled from the archives, where it was never intended to end up. In this episode Laurent Frat sits down with the globally notorious BASE jumper…
- #66 Jill Kuzman and the Mat Kenney Story Part 2 · 1 h 3 min · Episode 67This is the second part in a multi-part series examining the life and death of jumper Mathew Kenney. Part 1 can be found on episode #56 with Jeff Shapiro. In this installment…
- #65 Katelyn Escott Part 2: Straight out of Compton · 45 min · Episode 66This was supposed to be the second installment of a series following the career of Wingsuit BASE jumper Kate "Compton" Escott, but instead it has become the last in this series…
- #64 Sara Pendlebury - mental health and high-risk sports · 1 h 45 min · Episode 65In this episode, we explore the critical topic of mental health, particularly within the context of high-risk sports. Sara Pendlebury, a registered psychotherapist from Chamonix…
- #63 Dante Wardlaw: cross-training, learning, and the joys of flight · 1 h 40 min · Episode 64In this episode, Laurent sits down with Dante Wardlaw, a multidisciplinary air sports athlete. Their discussion covers Dante's journey from early exposure to skydiving and…
- #62 Peyton Malesovas: imposter syndrome, repression and next-gen progression · 2 h 18 min · Episode 63In this episode I’m Matt Blank speaks with Peyton Malesovas. In an attempt to start bridging the gap between the gray hairs and the youngbloods, she’s agreed to come on and share…
- #61 Jon Devore: triumph, tragedy and team work · 1 h 56 min · Episode 62In this episode, Laurent sits down with Jon Devore. Jon is a professional skydiving stuntman, aerial stunt coordinator, and captain of the Red Bull Air Force team. This episode…
- #60 Anne Helliwell: innovation, pioneering, BASE jumping legend · 1 h 34 min · Episode 61In this episode, host Matt Blank pulls over with Anne Helliwell to get a look into the renaissance era of BASE jumping. An integral part of creating BASE specific equipment, Anne…
- #59 Tomic Kluzniak: navigating training, challenging limits, and flying with intention · 1 h 22 min · Episode 60In this episode, Laurent sits down with Tomic, an expert wingsuit BASE jumper, skydiving and tunnel coach. They cover his journey, strategies, and philosophies. Tomic shares his…
- #58 Moab Joe: self-destruction to chasing self-actualization through flying · 1 h 32 min · Episode 59In this episode Matt Blank sits down with Joe Lohmuller in his home in Moab, Utah to talk about Joe’s journey from a life of self-destruction to one seeking self-actualization…
- #57 Peter Salzmann: Wingsuit Foil innovation, performance mindset, balancing risk & rewards · 1 h 52 min · Episode 58In #57 Laurent Frat sits down with Peter Salzmann, an Austrian wingsuit pilot who recently set world records in BASE jumping with his innovative wingsuit foil. They cover Peter's…
- #56 Jeff Shapiro: recovering a fallen friend, reflecting on loss, and reshaping perspectives · 1 h 44 min · Episode 56Laurent sits down with Jeff Shapiro to share the profoundly personal and emotional experience of leading a fatality recovery from a remote wingsuit accident. Jeff provides a…
- #55 David Laffargue: state of BASE education, finding balance, and respecting the sport · 1 h 25 min · Episode 55In this episode of Exit Point, Laurent sits down with David Laffargue. Their conversation goes unfiltered as they have a gritty, candid exchange that attempts to strip away some…
- #54 Gavin McClurg: mentorship, flow and navigating intermediate syndrome · 1 h 46 min · Episode 54In this episode, hosts Laurent Frat and Matt Blank step outside the realm of BASE jumping to gain valuable insights from Gavin McClurg, the host of Cloudbase Mayhem and a…
- #53 Jacob Gardner: the art of rigging, overcoming gear fear, and Magic Backpacks · 2 h 1 min · Episode 53In this episode, Matt Blank interviews Jacob Gardner, a renowned BASE jumper and equipment manufacturer. Jacob delves into his journey as a parachute rigger, the challenges and…
- #51 Sean Devlin: analyzing risk, water training, and navigating BASE · 2 h 30 min · Episode 51In this episode, Matt records with Sean Devlin who comes on to share his perspective on wingsuit progression, using data driven analysis to enhance performance and the importance…
- #49 Kendrick Dane: law, advocacy and the National Parks Service vs BASE jumping · 1 h 35 min · Episode 49In this episode, Laurent is joined by Kendrick Dane, a licensed attorney and BASE jumper. They explore the evolving world of BASE jumping, its legal battles, community spirit…
- #48 - Avery Badenhop, Dennis McGlynn, and Harry Parker: Team Ill Vision · 2 h 23 min · Episode 48In this episode, Matt Blank talks with Avery Badenhop, Dennis McGlynn, and Harry Parker, who were known during the 90s as the “three-headed dragon” of BASE and founders of the…
- #47 – Marshall Miller: Saying yes, importance of patience in high risk sports, and balancing family w/ adventure · 1 h 35 min · Episode 47In this episode, Laurent welcomes Marshall Miller. Marshall has inspired both jumpers and the public with his epic videos from his early days to his recent projects, including…
- #46 - Jonathan Cox: A New World Record · 1 h 37 min · Episode 46In this episode, Matt Blank interviews John Cox, a mostly self-taught BASE jumper who recently shattered the world record for "Most BASE jumps in 24 hours". He surpassed the…
- #45 Laurent Frat, Matt Blank and Mark Stockwell: Exit Point team round table · 58 min · Episode 45In this episode, the Exit Point team holds a round table discussion about how we've been doing and where we hope to go. This episode also celebrates a milestone in our podcast…
- #44 - Dan Darby: wingsuit progression, survival, training and racing · 1 h 56 min · Episode 43In this episode, Matt and Laurent interview Dan Darby. Dan has been skydiving and BASE jumping for over fifteen years. He's a competitive wingsuit skydiver, BASE jumper, and a…
- #42 - Scott Palmer: free fall legend, adventurer and 3rd generation aviator · 1 h 31 min · Episode 41In this episode, Laurent is joined by Scott Palmer. Scott, also known as Plamer, is a 3rd generation aviator, was a forward air controller with the US Air Force and after serving…
- #41 - Yuri Kuznetsov: surviving and thriving in the world of BASE · 1 h 7 min · Episode 40In this episode, Laurent sits down with Yuri Kuznetsov.Yuri made his first skydive when he was 13 years old, his first BASE jump in 1994 with skydiving gear, and has since made…
- #40 - Brian Germain: A Parachute And Its Pilot · 1 h 38 min · Episode 39In this episode, Matt Blank interviews Brian Germain. Brian is a career educator with a master's degree in sports psychology and a groundbreaking parachute engineer and test…
- #39 - Luke Rogers: wingsuit performance, training and mindset · 1 h 43 min · Episode 38In this episode, Laurent speaks with Luke Rogers, a professional wingsuit pilot from Australia. He's won multiple national titles, podiumed at various world championships, and…
- #38 - Marta Empinotti: mentor of generations, ethics, education and loss · 3 h 1 min · Episode 37In this episode, Matt Blank talks to Marta Empinotti, a BASE-jumping living legend. She’s not only a skilled and creative stuntperson, but also a pioneer in BASE education and…
- #37 - John McEvoy: Student progression, determination and a path to mastery · 2 h 0 min · Episode 36In this episode, Matt Blank sits down with John McEvoy. Blank and John take a deep dive into BASE jumping student progression and what it means to be on the path to mastery. John…
- #36 Marine Descols: Hypnosis, intuition, grief and a very close call · 1 h 34 min · Episode 35In this episode, Laurent speaks with Marine Descols. Marine is a hypnotherapist, wingsuit coach, and camera flyer. She did her first skydive at the young age of 12 and developed…
- #35 - Fred Fugen · 2 h 30 min · Episode 34In this episode, Laurent speaks with Fred Fugen, a pioneer of modern parachuting and one of the most talented and innovative skydivers, wingsuit pilots, and BASE jumpers on the…
- #34 - Steph Davis · 1 h 20 min · Episode 33In this episode, Laurent speaks with Steph Davis. Steph is a world-class free solo climber and an avid BASE jumper. She has a unique background, including being a dedicated…
- #33 - Katelyn Compton Escott · 1 h 20 min · Episode 32In this episode, Laurent Frat speaks with Katelyn Compton Escott - a performance wingsuit pilot, BASE jumper and speedflyer. She was recommended by a few mutual friends as a…
- #32 - Matt and Will on tension knots · 48 min · Episode 31Tension knots might be the scariest and least understood malfunction in BASE. In 2019 and 2020, Squirrel conducted surveys in an attempt to get a better understanding of tension…
- #31 - Lonnie Bissonnette · 1 h 15 min · Episode 30With us this week is Lonnie Bissonnette, a BASE jumping pioneer who after suffering a nearly fatal accident that left him paralyzed, became the first person to earn a BASE number…
- #30 - Espen Fadnes · 1 h 30 min · Episode 29In this episode, Laurent speaks with Espen Fadnes. Espen has somehow stayed at the top of the discipline, basically from the beginning of wingsuit BASE jumping, was part of the…
- #29 - Taylor Cole · 1 h 22 min · Episode 28In this episode, Matt Blank speaks with Taylor Cole. Taylor is a member of the US parachute team, CTO of the Navy’s technology lab in Southern California, stuntman, and long-time…
- Exit Point #28 - Chris McNamara · 1 h 26 min · Episode 27In this episode, Laurent and Matt speak with Chris McNamara. Chris is an expert in big wall climbing and describes himself as a recovering wingsuit BASE jumper. Climbing Magazine…
- Exit Point #27 - Robert Pecnik · 1 h 32 min · Episode 26In this episode, Laurent speaks with Robert Pecnik. Robert is the director, owner lead wingsuit designer, and test pilot of Phoenix Fly. In Croatia, Robert's skydiving career…
- Exit Point #26 - Jamie Crawford · 1 h 49 min · Episode 25In this episode, Laurent and Matt speak with Jamie Crawford. Jamie is an expert in urban BASE jumping who has been honing his skill with patience, dedication, and intention for…
- Exit Point #25 - 22 Jumps · 1 h 31 min · Episode 24In this episode, Laurent sits down with Tristan Wimmer and Ben Pitassi of 22 Jumps. 22 Jumps is a public charity that combines BASE jumping and fundraising to support the…
- Exit Point #24 - Jesse Hall · 1 h 7 min · Episode 23Jesse Hall is an accomplished athlete who grew up in the mountains of Colorado and developed a love for skiing, rock climbing, and backpacking at a young age. Jesse was inspired…
- Exit Point #23 - Todd Shoebotham · 1 h 54 min · Episode 22In this episode, Laurent Frat and Matt Blank speak with Todd Shoebotham. Todd is the co-founder and President of Apex BASE, one of the premier manufacturers of BASE Jumping…
- Exit Point #22 - Kenny Daniel · 1 h 18 min · Episode 21In this episode, we speak with Kenny Daniel, the founder and designer of Baseline.ws. Baseline.ws is a website and mobile app that provides tools designed to help skydivers and…
- Exit Point #21 - Jay Moledzki · 1 h 34 min · Episode 20In this episode, Matt Blank interviews Jay Moledzki. Jay Mo is one of skydiving's foremost canopy instructors and we've brought him on to talk about his history as a test pilot…
- Exit Point #20 - Sean Chuma · 1 h 37 min · Episode 19Sean Chuma has made BASE jumping his life and livelihood for the better part of one and a half decades, moving from southern California to Twin falls to BASE jump full time…
- Exit Point #19 - Dr. Matt Wilkes · 1 h 36 min · Episode 18Dr Matt Wilks is an adventure medic, ICU doctor and seasoned paraglider pilot. He founded the Flight Physiology Project, which is a multidisciplinary bid to study physiology…







