About this podcast
A deep and nuanced conversational podcast focused on technology, software, and computing.
Episodes
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- A Change Is Gonna Come · 1 h 7 min · Episode 95We've got Nick Gerace back! Last time he was on he was at System Initiative, but now he's joined our very own Steve Klabnik at East River Source Control! Kris and Matt catch up…
- The Tortoise and the Agent · 1 h 12 min · Episode 94On this week's episode, Kris and Matt are joined by Fred Hebert and Reid Savage from Honeycomb to talk discuss building products with tiny teams, why code reviews are a useful…
- Git Out · 1 h 39 min · Episode 93Change is challenging but quite often the tools that we used to solve yesterday's problems are unfit for tomorrow's problems. In this episode, Kris and Matt are joined by Rain…
- Close Encounters of the Human Kind · 1 h 7 min · Episode 92How should we spend our time now that writing code is cheap? In this episode, Kris and Matt are joined by Doug Soo, a staff engineer working on the storage systems at Honeycomb…
- Keep Your Enemies Closer · 1 h 16 min · Episode 91Steve is back! He joins Kris and Matt to discuss the drama around DHH's latest keynote at Rails World and Steve's latest views on AI. Interestingly, Steve believes that he'll sit…
- Thinking, Fast and Cheap · 1 h 8 min · Episode 90Another week, another duo episode, but this time around it's Dylan who's joining Kris! He brings a fresh perspective to the AI conversation that Kris and Matt have been engaging…
- Apocalypse Not Now · 1 h 3 min · Episode 89Kris and Matthew have some more spicy and it's about the latest AI news cycle: a greater than ten percent chance that AI wipes out humanity inside a decade. Neither of them are…
- The Elements of Slop · 1 h 0 min · Episode 88Kris and Matthew have some feelings about AI they want to discuss. No, not about benchmarks or agents, but about the people using it to write things they should be plenty capable…
- A Record of One's Own · 49 min · Episode 87Matthew hosts this week, joined by Kris and by Bailey Townsend, an AT Protocol community ambassador who builds tools for the atmosphere. AT Proto is the protocol underneath…
- Be Kind, Rewind · 58 min · Episode 86Matthew takes the host chair this week with Kris as an unusually quiet producer. They're joined by Ron Efroni and James Bayer from Flox for a long conversation about Nix. Ron…
- A Modest Proposal Proposal · 1 h 58 min · Episode 85The proposal proposal gets the full Fallthrough treatment. Kris, Matthew, and Jamie dig into Austin's plan for taming the Go project's ever-growing proposal backlog. What starts…
- Backlog to the Future · 1 h 4 min · Episode 84Kris is back from GopherCon, Matt is back from the lawn, and Fallthrough is back with news: a brand new website and a whole new show, Continue: Go Proposals Edition, a weekly…
- Vibe and Prejudice · 1 h 9 min · Episode 83We've got the classic trio of Kris, Matt, and Steve back to discuss Steve's impending cancellation for putting himself in the middle of some drama! Steve gives us a recount of…
- Token Maxx: Fury Road · 1 h 27 min · Episode 82On this week, we've got Kris, Matt, and Dylan! Yes, Dylan is back to talk about GopherCon and his experience as a self declared late adopter of agentic coding. Dylan chairs…
- I, Builder · 53 min · Episode 81Kris and Matt have a pretty big question they're trying to answer this week: in the age of AI, what does it actually mean to build something? We start (for real this time!) with…
- Everything Agentic All at Once · 1 h 11 min · Episode 80Another week, another deep episode! Kris and Matthew are back and this one goes right off the rails in the best way. What was supposed to be a rundown of the new model landscape…
- Landlord of the Rings · 59 min · Episode 79Kris and Matthew are back for a duo episode, and Kris has a hot take: ownership is terrible. What starts as a conversation about AI subscriptions versus API pricing turns into a…
- Under Pressure · 1 h 0 min · Episode 78On this week's episode, Kris and Matthew have a topic: tension. Not the bad kind you learn to avoid, but the productive kind that, like a code smell, is worth stopping to…
- The Spy Who Banned Me · 27 min · Episode 77It's Fallthrough time! In this episode, Kris, Matthew, and Steve get into the time Steve pointed Anthropic's Fable at a side project he hadn't touched since January and watched…
- Of Fables and Mythos · 1 h 7 min · Episode 76Another week, another Fallthrough! In this episode, Kris and Matthew get into the US government slapping export controls on Anthropic's Mythos and Fable models, the marketing…







