LawNext
by Populus Radio, Robert Ambrogi
Live from ClioCon, Jack Newton on Clio's 'Refounding,' Its Push into…
About this podcast
LawNext is a weekly podcast hosted by Bob Ambrogi, who is internationally known for his writing and speaking on legal technology and innovation. Each week, Bob interviews the innovators and entrepreneurs who are driving what's next in the legal industry. From legal technology startups to new law firm business models to enhancing access to justice, Bob and his guests explore the future of law and legal practice.
Episodes
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- Live from ClioCon, Jack Newton on Clio's 'Refounding,' Its Push into the Courts, and Why Data Is the Only Durable Moat · 34 min · Season 1 Episode 341Clio founder and CEO Jack Newton describes the past year as nothing less than a "refounding" of the company he started 18 years ago. In this episode of LawNext, recorded live on…
- NetDocuments CPO Dan Hauck on the Company's Redesigned Platform, the Legal Context Graph, and Building an Agentic DMS · 33 min · Season 1 Episode 340As NetDocuments rolls out a completely redesigned user experience, a new Microsoft 365 integration, and real-time co-authoring, LawNext host Bob Ambrogi speaks with Chief Product…
- NetDocuments CEO Josh Baxter on Why the DMS is Becoming the Firm's 'Intelligence Layer' · 36 min · Season 1 Episode 339NetDocuments CEO Josh Baxter believes the document management system is becoming something else entirely: a law firm's organizational intelligence layer. As lawyers increasingly…
- 'The Hardest Thing I've Ever Done': Noah Waisberg on Why Selling a Business Hurts, and How Zuva Aims to Fix It · 1 h 3 minFive years ago, Noah Waisberg sold Kira Systems, the pioneering AI contract-analysis company he co-founded, to Litera. Even though the deal itself went well, the experience of…
- An Offer She Could Not Turn Down — Bridget McCormack on Joining Clio to Transform Technology for Judges · 43 min · Season 1 Episode 337Legal tech company Clio has long said that its mission is to transform the legal experience for all. Until now, that "all" has largely focused on law firms and their clients, but…
- As Alex Su Is Named President of Latitude Legal, We Talk about Why AI Is Driving Demand for Flex Talent · 40 min · Season 1 Episode 336Call it Alex Su, redux. We do not usually have the same guest on LawNext twice in the same year, but there is good reason to have Alex back, as he has just been named president…
- Casefleet Founder Jeff Kerr on Fact Management in the Age of AI · 45 min · Season 1 Episode 335Chronologies have become one of legal tech's hottest categories, with a wave of AI startups promising to turn a messy evidentiary record into a structured timeline in minutes…
- Why Legal AI Pioneer Pablo Arredondo Is Joining Clio to Build Technology for the Courts · 37 min · Season 1 Episode 334Pablo Arredondo, the Casetext cofounder who helped build some of the earliest and most influential applications of AI in legal practice, is joining Clio as senior vice president…
- LexisNexis CTO Greg Dickason On Building Legal AI In Real Time with Customers in Its New Innovation Lab · 40 min · Season 1 Episode 333This week, LexisNexis announced the opening of its Customer Innovation Lab in New York City — a physical space where legal professionals, LexisNexis engineers, and AI companies…
- SurePoint's New CEO Jeff Steinberg on the Mandate for Change · 46 min · Season 1 Episode 332SurePoint Technologies, a company that provides practice-management, finance and growth technology products for mid-sized law firms, named Jeff Steinberg its chief executive…
- From Product to Practice: Why Casetext's Former CTO Has Started An AI Native Law Firm · 53 min · Season 1 Episode 331As chief technology officer at Casetext, Ryan Walker helped build CoCounsel, one of the first and most consequential generative AI legal assistants — a product so significant it…
- Law Democratized: Renee Knake Jefferson on Her Blueprint for Solving the Justice Crisis · 1 h 3 min · Season 1 Episode 330Martin Luther King famously said, "The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice." My guest today quoted his words in her 2024 book, Law Democratized: A…
- Inside Claude for Legal: Anthropic's Mark Pike on AI's Next Frontier in Law · 52 min · Season 1 Episode 329When Anthropic launched Claude for Legal in May – more than 20 MCP connectors and a dozen practice-area plugins built specifically for legal work – it marked the company's…
- Legal Research for Everyone: Inside the CourtListener - Claude Partnership · 44 min · Season 1 Episode 328Last month, when Anthropic, developer of the popular AI assistant Claude, announced a major push into legal, much of the coverage in the media and the buzz on social media…
- Amy Juers and Valerie Chan on Marketing Legal Tech in the Age of AI Search · 39 min · Season 1 Episode 327Once upon a time, a legal tech vendor's goal in getting seen by potential customers was to rank on the first page of Google search. But in the age of AI, that is no longer…
- New Casepoint CEO Paul Colangelo on AI, GovTech and the Road Ahead · 36 min · Season 1 Episode 326When Thoma Bravo took a majority stake in Casepoint in January 2025 and merged it with the government-software company OPEXUS, it set the e-discovery pioneer on a broader course…
- Context Is Everything: CEO Neil Araujo on iManage's AI Strategy · 38 min · Season 1 Episode 325Neil Araujo, the CEO and cofounder of iManage, was last on this podcast almost exactly two years ago. In the dog years of the legal industry's AI age, that feels like a long time…
- How AI Is Transforming the Way Law Firms Win Business, with Ikaun President Jason Noble · 41 min · Season 1 Episode 324Law firms sell experience — but for decades, harnessing and operationalizing that experience has been a largely manual, chaotic process. In this episode, recorded live at the…
- Legal Marketing Association President Rachel Shields Williams On AI, Innovation, and Why People Still Come First · 45 min · Season 1 Episode 323Recorded live at the annual meeting of the Legal Marketing Association in New Orleans, this episode features a conversation with Rachel Shields Williams, president of the LMA and…
- Built on a Weekend: Damien Riehl and Mike Bommarito Show What Vibe Coding Can Really Do · 1 h 1 minWe don't usually say this, but for today's LawNext, you're going to want to watch the video version, if you can. The audio will be good, but the video will be great. You can find…
- Learned Hand's Shlomo Klapper on Why Courts Are the Next Frontier for Legal AI · 1 h 6 min · Season 1 Episode 321Are courts the next frontier for legal AI? Shlomo Klapper, founder and CEO of the AI-driven judicial case-preparation platofrm Learned Hand, believes they are. A former litigator…
- Mary Technology Wants to Solve Litigation's 'Fact Chaos' Problem · 44 min · Season 1 Episode 320E-discovery platforms have gotten great at narrowing millions of documents down to manageable sets. But what happens next — the grueling work of extracting facts, organizing…
- LawNext on Location: Visiting Everlaw's Headquarters For A Conversation with AJ Shankar, Founder and CEO · 40 min · Season 1 Episode 319For the final installment of our LawNext on Location series, Bob heads across the bay, from San Francisco to Oakland, to the headquarters of e-discovery company Everlaw, where he…
- LawNext on Location: At A Sonoma Winery, A Conversation with Briefpoint CEO Nathan Walter about Discovery, Disruption and, Of Course, Wine · 51 min · Season 1 Episode 318Continuing his on-location interview tour of San Francisco, Bob heads an hour north to Santa Rosa to sit down with Nathan Walter, cofounder and CEO of Briefpoint, over a bottle…
- LawNext on Location: The View from Tiburon – A Conversation with Pablo Arredondo, Casetext Cofounder · 46 min · Season 1 Episode 317As Bob continues his LawNext on Location series – all recorded live in the San Francisco area at locations of each guest's choosing – he sits down with Pablo Arredondo at his…
- LawNext on Location: Lunch with Alex Su of Latitude Legal In Alameda, Calif. · 44 min · Season 1 Episode 316This episode is recorded live, and is best enjoyed on YouTube. Watch the episode here. While Bob is visiting San Francisco for two weeks, he is sitting down for conversations…
- From Customer to Acquirer: Filevine's Ryan Anderson and Pincites' Sona Sulakian on Building AI Contract Intelligence · 37 min · Season 1 Episode 315In this episode of LawNext, we talk with Ryan Anderson, co-founder and CEO of Filevine, and Sona Sulakian, former CEO and co-founder of Pincites, about Filevine's acquisition of…
- From Roommates to Billionaires: Harvey's Founders Gabriel Pereyra and Winston Weinberg on Building AI Infrastructure for Law · 55 min · Season 1 Episode 314Gabriel Pereyra and Winston Weinberg started legal AI company Harvey in 2022 as roommates in a San Francisco apartment. Pereyra had been working on AI research at Meta and…
- Clio Doubleheader: CMO Reagan Attle and VP of Payments A.J. Axelrod · 41 min · Season 1 Episode 313In the last in a series of interviews recorded during the ClioCon conference in Boston in October 2025, we bring you a doubleheader – two interviews with two of the legal tech…
- Fastcase Founder Ed Walters On the Implications of Clio's Acquisition of vLex · 35 min · Season 1 Episode 312The biggest deal of 2025 – in fact, the biggest deal ever in legal tech – was legal tech company Clio's acquisition of vLex for $1 billion. A global legal research company…
- Inside Clio's AI-Driven Transformation: CPO John Foreman and CTO Jonathan Watson · 34 min · Season 1 Episode 311For legal technology company Clio, this was a particularly significant year, marked by major announcements – including its $1 billion acquisition of vLex – that many saw as…
- Reimagining Litigation Workflows through AI: A Panel Recorded Live at the Everlaw Summit · 48 min · Season 1 Episode 310As new tools using generative AI promise to change the way we litigate and conduct discovery, what are the implications for day-to-day litigation workflows? On today's episode of…
- The Neuroanalytics Of Using Legal Tech: Clio's Joshua Lenon On A First-of-its-Kind Cognitive Study · 36 min · Season 1 Episode 309Legal technology company Clio recently released the 10th edition of its Legal Trends Report, its annual analysis of data and survey responses on legal practice and emerging…
- As SimpleDocs Acquires Law Insider, Founder Preston Clark Shares the Strategic Vision · 46 min · Season 1 Episode 308If content is the raw material of generative AI, it only makes sense that an AI-driven contract automation platform would want to acquire the world's largest database of…
- Clio CEO Jack Newton on Its New 'Intelligent Legal Work Platform' and A New Era Of AI-Driven Legal Work · 34 min · Season 1 Episode 307Last week brought the 13th annual ClioCon — the annual conference of legal technology company Clio — to Boston, Mass., where cofounder and CEO Jack Newton gave a keynote in which…
- How AI Is Helping Legal Aid Serve 50% More Clients: Thomson Reuters' AI for Justice Program One Year In · 58 min · Season 1 Episode 306In the United States, over 90% of civil legal needs go unrepresented – a staggering justice gap that leaves millions of people facing eviction, domestic violence, wrongful…
- From Client Experience to Client Intelligence: Case Status CEO Andy Seavers On Becoming A 'Future Firm' · 45 min · Season 1 Episode 305Recently, the legal technology company Case Status held its inaugural Client Experience Summit in Charleston, S.C., a conference devoted to exploring how AI, data and ethical…
- An AI Arbitrator? The Latest Innovations from the American Arbitration Association, with CEO Bridget McCormack and CTO Diana Didia · 56 min · Season 1 Episode 304Nearly two years ago on this podcast, we discussed the American Arbitration Association's innovation initiatives – and specifically its embrace of generative AI – with Bridget…
- Justice Workers: Reimagining Access to Justice as Democracy Work, with Rebecca Sandefur and Matthew Burnett · 45 min · Season 1 Episode 303With as many as 120 million legal problems going unresolved in America each year, traditional lawyer-centered approaches to access to justice have consistently failed to meet the…
- Leading Product Transformation Amid Company Transformation: 8am's New Chief Product Officer Leslie Witt · 36 min · Season 1 Episode 302As Leslie Witt took to the stage Sept. 3 to deliver the keynote at Kaleidoscope, 8am's inaugural customer conference, it was the culmination of a whirlwind summer. It had been…
- Ep 301: From Law Student Startup Founder to Global CEO: Daniel Lewis's Legal Tech Journey · 49 min · Season 1 Episode 301Daniel Lewis has witnessed legal technology's evolution from multiple vantage points that few others can claim. As a Stanford law student in 2012, he and classmate Nik Reed…
- Ep 300: Reveal's CEO and CTO On Its Launch of Gen AI for E-Discovery Review · 44 min · Season 1 Episode 300The e-discovery company Reveal Data recently announced that it will launch its new generative AI-powered document review platform, called "aji," in late September. Notably, the…
- Ep 299: Harbor Global CEO Matt Sunderman On Driving Digital Transformation in Legal · 38 min · Season 1 Episode 299This year's ILTACON, which starts later this week, marks the second anniversary of Harbor, a global expert services company formed through the merger of three long-established…
- Ep 298: SpotDraft's Shashank Bijapur: From Late-Night Due Diligence to Legal Tech Innovation · 40 min · Season 1 Episode 298What happens when a Harvard-trained corporate lawyer, tired of copying and pasting contract language, starts reading about self-driving cars? In Shashank Bijapur's case, it…
- Ep 297: CoCounsel's Next Generation: Emily Colbert and Rawia Ashraf on Agentic AI for Lawyers · 44 min · Season 1 Episode 297If generative AI was the biggest story in legal tech in 2023 and 2024, agentic AI is proving to be the most talked-about topic of 2025. Spurring this, at least in part, has been…
- Ep 296: How LexisNexis and Harvey Are Partnering to Reshape Legal AI, with LexisNexis CEO Sean Fitzpatrick · 44 min · Season 1 Episode 296When legal research giant LexisNexis and legal AI giant Harvey announced a strategic alliance last month, legal tech commentator Richard Tromans called it "possibly the most…
- Ep 295: How One Mass Tort Firm Uses Supio, the AI Platform for PI Lawyers · 50 min · Season 1 Episode 295Supio, an AI-driven platform developed specifically for personal injury lawyers, has been generating a lot of buzz. On the heels of reporting record growth last year and raising…
- Ep 294: A Special Interview with Aderant CEO Chris Cartrett Recorded Live at Its Momentum Global Conference · 40 min · Season 1 Episode 294When Chris Cartrett was named CEO of legal technology company Aderant in 2022, he did so with the mission of aggressively advancing a cloud-first strategy throughout the…
- Ep 293: Litera's Avaneesh Marwaha: The CEO Who Left Before AI and Returned to Lead Through It · 46 min · Season 1 Episode 293What happens when a CEO steps away from a legal tech company just before the generative AI revolution explodes, then returns two years later amid a landscape that is being…
- Ep 292: AALL President Cornell Winston on Why Law Librarians Should 'Be Bold' · 44 min · Season 1 Episode 292Cornell Winston, president of the American Association of Law Libraries, brings a unique perspective to law librarianship, having spent 45 years in libraries across diverse…







