Lazy Leverage
by Jon Matzner and Peter Lohmann
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The Biggest AI Problem Is Seeing What's Possible | Lazy Leverage #133
The Biggest AI Problem Is Seeing What's Possible | Lazy Leverage #133
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Talking about using leverage in life and business.
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- The Biggest AI Problem Is Seeing What's Possible | Lazy Leverage #133 · 53 min · Episode 133We mention a lot of books on this show and never write them down. Fixed that.61 books, 39 essays, 88 episodes, free: https://lazy-leverage.saganpassport.com/ Jon has heard owners…
- Why "Passive Income" Is the Worst Business Advice You'll Ever Get | Lazy Leverage #132 · 47 min · Season 1 Episode 132We mention a lot of books on this show and never write them down. Fixed that.61 books, 39 essays, 88 episodes, free: https://lazy-leverage.saganpassport.com/ "Passive income is…
- Fire Them If They Use AI. Fire Them If They Don't. | Lazy Leverage #131 · 58 min · Episode 131We mention a lot of books on this show and never write them down. Fixed that.61 books, 39 essays, 88 episodes, free: https://lazy-leverage.saganpassport.com/ Cameron Tope has a…
- I Can Beat a $5,000 Agency for $3. Here's How. | Lazy Leverage #130 · 44 min · Episode 130We mention a lot of books on this show and never write them down. Fixed that.61 books, 39 essays, 88 episodes, free: https://lazy-leverage.saganpassport.com/ Jon can hand a model…
- 22 Years of Therapy in 2.5 Hours. On Psilocybin. | Lazy Leverage #129 · 60 min · Episode 129We mention a lot of books on this show and never write them down. Fixed that.61 books, 39 essays, 88 episodes, free: https://lazy-leverage.saganpassport.com/ This conversation…
- I Would Not Spend $50,000 on a Front End. (Do This Instead) | Lazy Leverage #128 · 50 min · Episode 128We mention a lot of books on this show and never write them down. Fixed that.61 books, 39 essays, 88 episodes, free: https://lazy-leverage.saganpassport.com/ Jon's Airtable had…
- You Should Be Paying People to Sit Idle. Justin Roff-Marsh. | Lazy Leverage #127 · 1 h 18 min · Episode 127We mention a lot of books on this show and never write them down. Fixed that.61 books, 39 essays, 88 episodes, free: https://lazy-leverage.saganpassport.com/ A Formula One pit…
- I Spent $1,300 on Grok Bot in 2 Days (And I'd Do It Again) | Lazy Leverage #126 · 57 min · Episode 126We mention a lot of books on this show and never write them down. Fixed that.61 books, 39 essays, 88 episodes, free: https://lazy-leverage.saganpassport.com/ Jon put a $300 a…
- My Team Should Feel Threatened | Lazy Leverage #125 · 57 min · Episode 125We mention a lot of books on this show and never write them down. Fixed that.61 books, 39 essays, 88 episodes, free: http://lazy-leverage.saganpassport.com/ A recruiter at Sagan…
- McDonald's Says No to Tic Tacs. You Say Yes to Everything. | Lazy Leverage #124 · 36 min · Episode 124McDonald's could sell Tic Tacs. People have asked. They could put Monster in a cooler on the counter. They said no to all of it, because the thing has to stay simple, replicable…
- He Had Never Touched Plumbing. Now He's at $6M. | Lazy Leverage #123 · 51 min · Episode 123JD Beck bought a plumbing company in June 2022 doing about a million dollars a year. He had never touched plumbing. He'd spent his career in trades management, most recently in…
- Giving Everybody Claude Won't Make You Money | Lazy Leverage #122 · 45 min · Episode 122Electrifying the factory didn't make anyone money. Owners pulled the steam engine out, dropped an electric motor in, and changed nothing else about how the floor was laid out. A…
- The HR Mistakes That Can Actually Get You Sued | Lazy Leverage #121 · 33 min · Episode 121Jessica Doyle's CEO and CFO were hand-building the company's reports in Excel. The formulas kept breaking, which meant the owners of the business were the ones fixing them. So…
- You Need to Get Good at Wasting Time | Lazy Leverage #120 · 52 min · Episode 120Juan is who Jon becomes when he finally takes real time off. There is a specific shirt, one extra button undone, a jacuzzi and a cocktail. Then something breaks at the company…
- I'd Put These $300 Glasses on Every Employee | Lazy Leverage #119 · 39 min · Episode 119Jon bought a pair of Meta Ray-Ban smart glasses to take pictures with his kids without pulling his phone out. Weeks later, he's texting his AI agent from them, dictating voice…
- The Airbnb Tax Hack Is a Trap | Lazy Leverage #118 · 57 min · Episode 118Every entrepreneur who writes their first six-figure check to the IRS hears the same pitch: buy an Airbnb, use the depreciation to wipe out your active income, save a fortune on…
- I Locked 15 Business Owners in a Room to Solve AI. Here's What Works. | Lazy Leverage #117 · 1 h 1 min · Episode 117Jon just put 15 business owners in a room in San Diego for 2.5 days. Everyone doing over $3M a year. Nobody selling AI courses. In this episode: the 8 rules Jon and Zaki (Sagan's…
- Why You Can't Put Your Phone Down (And How to Actually Fix It) | Lazy Leverage #116 · 55 min · Episode 116Jon and Peter break down the two-step system Jon uses to put the phone down on weekends: uninstall the apps and route notifications through an AI agent so you never touch the…
- Why You're Tracking 74 KPIs and Still Going Broke | Lazy Leverage #115 · 43 min · Episode 115Jon and Peter break down the simplifying framework quietly running their entire business strategy: the 2 numbers every CEO needs to track, pulled from Justin Roff-Marsh's…
- He Quit Private Equity to Buy a $5M Pool Business | Lazy Leverage #114 · 57 min · Episode 114Jon sits down with Austen Ebenger, a 28-year-old Wharton undergrad and NYU Stern MBA who left private equity in Boston, moved back in with his parents, and bought a $5.4M pool…







