MoneyNeverSleeps
by Pete Townsend | GP at Norio Ventures
What Do You Own? Tokenization’s Missing Half | Dr Ian Hunt | [EP. 330]
About this podcast
MoneyNeverSleeps is a weekly show where smart people bring one big idea, and Pete Townsend breaks it down in under 15 minutes. Featuring founders, operators, and investors shaping crypto, fintech, AI, and onchain finance. After 300+ long-form episodes, the show has evolved into a sharper, faster format built for a world where insights need to travel quickly.
Episodes
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- What Do You Own? Tokenization’s Missing Half | Dr Ian Hunt | [EP. 330] · 20 min · Episode 330Dr Ian Hunt spent around 40 years on the buy side and was the design authority behind FundAdminChain, the first distributed ledger-based funds platform to go live in the UK. His…
- DeFi vs Onchain Finance: Where Will TradFi Land? | Benedetto Biondi | Folks Finance [EP. 329] · 14 min · Episode 329This week nearly half the companies on the OKX-ICE tokenized stock list opted out, and in the same week DTCC went live on Canton with JPMorgan signed up. That had me questioning…
- What Becomes Code? AI Agents and the Tokenized Fund | Alejandro Gutierrez | Superteam Ireland [EP. 328] · 15 min · Episode 328Alejandro Gutierrez of Superteam Ireland is back to take on Matt Walsh's challenge: are tokenized funds a new kind of asset, or the same fund on new rails? Off the back of…
- Where the Next Founders Come From: An Irish Story | Eoghan Powell | WorkIQ [EP. 327] · 15 min · Episode 327Pete Townsend is joined by Eoghan Powell, who runs WorkIQ, a new innovation centre for founders and early-stage companies in Tallaght, on the edge of Dublin. This is Part 2 of a…
- Bring the Funders to the Founders | Derek O'Doherty | West x West [EP. 326] · 13 min · Episode 326Pete Townsend is joined by Derek O'Doherty, founder of West x West, the two-day tech, venture and culture festival in Castlebar, Mayo that brings Irish founders together with…
- The Love-Hate of Tokenization: A Trader's Reckoning | Steve Whyman | [EP. 325] · 15 min · Episode 325Steve Whyman spent 20 years trading fixed income at Bear Stearns, ABN AMRO, and BlackRock, then ran digital assets and tokenization inside Fidelity International, before leaving…
- Containerized: How Tokenization Restacks Finance | Justin Swart | BITKRAFT Ventures [EP. 324] · 15 min · Episode 324Justin Swart, Partner at BITKRAFT Ventures, joins Pete Townsend to make the case that tokenization is doing to finance what the shipping container did to global trade…
- Grit Don't Quit: How Beezie Got to Yes | Andrea Miele [EP. 323] · 15 min · Episode 323Andrea Miele is co-founder and CEO of Beezie, a gamified commerce platform Pete Townsend backed through Techstars in 2024, joins Pete to talk about why the "TCG" label never…
- Agentic AI's Least Obvious Takeover Yet | James McCann | Everhaze [EP. 322] · 15 min · Episode 322James McCann, CEO and founder of Everhaze, joins Pete Townsend to talk about the 80/20 problem breaking PR agency economics, how an agentic layer turns hundreds of daily…
- Making Monzo Irish: The Playbook for a More Human Digital Bank | Monzo Bank Europe | Elaine Deehan [EP. 321] · 15 min · Episode 321Elaine Deehan is back on MoneyNeverSleeps for her third appearance, and this one has been a long time coming. As Ireland Country Manager of Monzo Bank Europe, Elaine is doing…
- You Can't Code Your Way Out of Risk | Amor Sexton | Blockdaemon [EP. 314] · 14 min · Season 9 Episode 314You Can't Code Your Way Out | Amor Sexton, Blockdaemon In the last few weeks, Drift and Kelp lost $577 million between them. Neither one was a code exploit. Both were operational…
- Founder Blind Spots: Hard Legal Lessons From the Edge | Sheila Lynch [EP. 320] · 15 min · Episode 320Sheila Lynch has been in the room for three of the biggest financial shocks of the last five years — COVID at CQS, the Russian invasion of Ukraine at BlackRock with live Eastern…
- What Crypto Already Solved for Enterprise AI | Rami Akeela | Nera Systems · 12 min · Episode 319How can you use the world's most powerful AI models without ever exposing your sensitive data? Rami Akeela has spent twenty years building privacy and cryptographic…
- The Drive to Five: Unpacking Citi's $5.5T Tokenization Forecast [EP. 318] · 15 min · Episode 318Citi Institute's "Tokenization 2030: Wall Street OnChain" puts a number on it: $5.5 trillion in tokenized assets by 2030. Alejandro Gutierrez, who leads Solana Superteam Ireland…
- The Onramp Bringing TradFi Onchain | Martin Watkins | Montis [EP. 317] · 12 min · Episode 317Martin Watkins is CEO of Montis Group, which is building a blockchain-native central securities depository — the settlement and issuance layer that makes tokenized assets work as…
- From Lean Startup to Incorruptible | Eric Ries [EP. 316] · 26 min · Episode 316Pete Townsend is joined by Eric Ries, author of the New York Times bestseller The Lean Startup and founder of the Long-Term Stock Exchange, for a conversation about the invisible…
- Product Before Token | Sal Ternullo | SVRN + A100x Ventures [EP. 315] · 15 min · Episode 315Pete Townsend is joined by Sal Ternullo, CEO of SVRN and Managing Partner at A100x Ventures, for a conversation about how to tell the difference between a token that represents…
- Making Crypto Tax Efficient | Dan Gold | Stratiphy [EP. 313] · 13 min · Episode 313Dan Gold is founder and CEO of Stratiphy, and as far as anyone knows, the only platform offering tax-efficient crypto exposure to UK retail investors right now. The path got…
- Sell More or Don't Bother - The Hard Truth of Tokenization | Alejandro Gutierrez | Solana Superteam Ireland [EP. 312] · 15 min · Episode 312Tokenization has a perception problem. The industry keeps selling it as an efficiency play — less friction, more transparency, better infrastructure. But if tokenization doesn't…
- VC 3.0: Venture Capital Reimagined | Brian McNulty | Lingfeng Capital [EP. 311] · 15 min · Episode 311Brian McNulty has been building toward this moment for a decade. When he co-founded the Post Trade Distributed Ledger Group with the London Stock Exchange back in 2015, he was…
- Who's Watching the Agent? | Rob Viglione | Horizen Labs [EP. 310] · 12 min · Episode 310Who's watching the agent? That's the question at the heart of this episode — and it's one that's going to define the next decade of finance. Rob Viglione spent his career…
- Talent is Equally Distributed, Opportunity is Not | John Hill | Whop [EP. 309] · 15 min · Episode 309Talent is equally distributed. Opportunity is not. John Hill, VP of Story at Whop, has spent his career watching founders in Cape Town, Lagos, and Medellín build something real —…
- Markets Never Close: The Case for Tokenized ETPs | Alex Pollak | 21Shares [EP. 308] · 12 min · Episode 308Markets don't close when the exchange does. They just move somewhere else. In this episode of MoneyNeverSleeps, Pete Townsend speaks with Alex Pollak of 21Shares about why crypto…
- Transparency Equals Liability: Why DeFi Strategies Get Copied | Matteo Manzi | Orion Finance (EP. 307) · 14 min · Episode 307DeFi transparency means every onchain trade is visible. Which means the moment a strategy works, the market can copy it. In this episode of MoneyNeverSleeps, Pete Townsend speaks…
- Why Stablecoins and Banks Will Coexist | Emma Landriault | JPM Coin (EP. 306) · 14 min · Episode 306Money doesn’t become digital overnight. It becomes digital when the rails of finance begin to change. In this episode of MoneyNeverSleeps, Pete Townsend speaks with Emma…
- Digital Yuan: Trade, Gold, and the New Money Rails (EP. 305) · 14 min · Episode 305Money doesn’t become geopolitical overnight. It becomes geopolitical when the rails start to change. In this episode of MoneyNeverSleeps, Pete Townsend is joined by Sean Lee…
- Scaling Human Expertise in Crypto and AI · 12 min · Episode 304Scaling human expertise isn’t a technology problem — it’s a trust problem. In this episode of MoneyNeverSleeps, Pete Townsend speaks with Joni Pirovich, founder of Crystal aOS…
- Why Working Less Saved My Startup · 14 min · Episode 303Surviving the hard days of startup life isn’t about working more - it’s about building the right support around you. In this episode of MoneyNeverSleeps, Pete Townsend speaks…
- 2026 Crypto Predictions: Why It All Gets Boring · 13 minCrypto doesn’t win in 2026 by being louder - it wins by becoming boring.In this episode of MoneyNeverSleeps, Pete Townsend is joined by Alejandro Gutierrez for a sharp set of…
- Stablecoin Power Shift? Dollar Dominance, AI, and Europe’s Big Question (EP.301) · 14 min · Episode 301Why are stablecoins suddenly a geopolitical issue? Pete Townsend and Garrett Cassidy break down dollar dominance, EU pushback, AI’s role in digital money, and the future of…
- The Next Episode - MoneyNeverSleeps 300: One Story Ends, Another Begins · 1 h 28 min · Episode 300Hey there, I’m Pete Townsend, and this is MoneyNeverSleeps - where we look inside the minds of entrepreneurs and at the crossover of startups, enterprise, finance, technology…
- 299: Norio Ventures’ Next Phase | Scaling Solana in Ireland | Stablecoin Growth | Tokenized Securities | Alejandro Gutierrez · 39 min · Episode 299Alejandro Gutierrez joins me to talk Solana in Ireland, stablecoins, and tokenized securities - plus I share the launch of Norio Ventures Fund I and what’s ahead for Episode 300…
- 298: Techstars Web3 Demo Day 2025: Live from NY Tech Week · 1 h 0 min · Episode 298This week, we're doing something different on MoneyNeverSleeps. You're coming inside the room for the Techstars Web3 Demo Day 2025, recorded live at Civic Hall in NYC during NY…
- 297: Grit, Mud & $400K | Jesse Phillips | Trustware Co-Founder & CEO · 53 min · Episode 297This week, I caught up with Jesse Phillips, co-founder and CEO of Trustware, and one of the most quietly determined founders I’ve ever backed. I invested in Jesse and his…
- 296: The Unstoppable Founder | Allard Luchsinger from Techstars · 51 min · Episode 296This week, I sat down with my longtime Techstars colleague and friend Allard Luchsinger, Managing Director of the ABN AMRO + Techstars Future of Finance Accelerator in Amsterdam…
- 295: VC For the Rest of Us | Shuttle | Scott Ashmore and Rob Halligan · 48 min · Episode 295This week, I’m joined by Scott Ashmore and Rob Halligan, co-founders of Shuttle - a platform giving individuals access to venture capital deals that have traditionally been…
- 294: Superteams, Startups and Stablecoins - Solana’s Bet on Ireland · 31 min · Episode 294This week, I’m joined once again by Alejandro Gutierrez, now officially leading Solana Superteam Ireland, a new initiative powered by the Solana Foundation to accelerate Web3…
- 293: Building Bridges: Simon Brown on Ethereum’s Cultural Gravity and Consensys Network State · 38 min · Episode 293Simon Brown joins me to share how his role at Consensys has evolved since his last appearance in January 2024 and why he’s now leading the charge on the Consensys Network State…
- 292: Done Deal: Ollie Walsh on Pipit’s 12-Year Journey to Qenta · 36 min · Episode 292This week, I’m welcoming back Ollie Walsh, formerly the co-founder and CEO of Pipit Global, and now, the President of Qenta, following Qenta’s recent acquisition of Pipit. This…
- 291: Scaling Without VC: The Long Game with Fergal McGovern from VisibleThread · 45 min · Episode 291This week, I had the absolute pleasure of sitting down with Fergal McGovern, founder and CEO of VisibleThread, for one of the most enlightening founder chats I’ve had in a while…
- 290: The Ethical Hacker Mindset with Yev Broshevan from Hacken · 39 min · Episode 290This week, I sat down with Yev Broshevan, co-founder and Chief Business Development Officer at Hacken, a leading blockchain security firm focused on making Web3 a safer, more…
- 289: BlackRock’s BTC Flex | On-Chain Politics | Tokenized Fund Liquidity | SBF Still Scheming | Laura Walsh · 42 min · Episode 289This week, I’m joined by the ever-insightful and gloriously unfiltered Laura Walsh for a whirlwind spin through the crypto-political multiverse. From BlackRock’s Larry Fink…
- 288: Anthony Rose, SeedLegals | 99 Problems (But My Legals Ain’t One) · 51 min · Episode 288Anthony Rose is the co-founder and CEO of SeedLegals, the #1 platform for startup funding and legals in the UK. But long before he was helping tens of thousands of founders raise…
- 287: Worlds Colliding | The Great Web3 Crossover with Alejandro Gutierrez · 27 min · Episode 287In this week’s episode, I’m joined by my good friend and returning guest co-host Alejandro Gutierrez, and we get into the thick of what I like to call “worlds colliding” — the…
- 286: Introducing the Techstars Web3 Accelerator Class of 2025 · 7 min · Episode 286In this episode, we’re announcing the Techstars Web3 Accelerator Class of 2025 featuring founders from the six web3 startups that Techstars are investing in and accelerating in…
- 285: Startup Smarts & Web3 Wisdom | Highlights from the Past Year · 41 min · Episode 285This week, we’re taking a look back at some of my favorite moments from the past year—the conversations that stuck with me long after we hit stop on the recording. If you missed…
- 284: Operation Chokepoint 2.0 | SEC’s Next Crypto Journey | Solana’s Growth | Alejandro Gutierrez · 44 min · Episode 284Alejandro Gutierrez joins me once again to dive into some of the biggest conversations in crypto right now, including: • The fallout from Operation Chokepoint 2.0 and the…
- 283: Arabian Prince | The N.W.A Pioneer Empowering the Next Tech Generation · 37 min · Episode 283This week, we’re tapping into the intersection of hip-hop, technology, education and startups with a true pioneer—Arabian Prince. If you know your rap history, you know Arabian…
- Trump Memecoin Mania, SEC Shakeups, and the Future of Finance with Laura Walsh · 42 min · Episode 282Laura Walsh returns this week to help me unpack the whirlwind of events shaking up crypto, finance, and politics—from Trump’s memecoin antics to regulatory shifts and the…
- 281: The Art of Startup Exits | Brian McDonald from Bay Advisory · 47 min · Episode 281Brian McDonald is a partner at Bay Advisory, a corporate finance firm helping founders navigate funding, scaling, and exiting their businesses. Brian first joined the show in…







