Show notes
From Org Charts to Pods: Builders, Sellers, Operators, and AI Agents
In episode two of Old School New Tech, Ran Aroussi and co-host Muximus debate shifting from traditional org charts to a system-driven “pod” model where early-stage companies primarily need builders and sellers, with classic middle management deferred.
Ran argues that under ~20 people startups should avoid coordination-heavy roles, adding that middle management becomes useful around 20–30 headcount, with a key early exception being an operator/chief-of-staff-style role that bridges build and sell.
They discuss AI agents…
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