Open Interest
by Open Interest
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Who Owns the Stablecoin Economics? Jacob Laufer on Building with M0
Who Owns the Stablecoin Economics? Jacob Laufer on Building with M0
About this podcast
Open Interest is a show of conversations with founders and funds in AI and crypto, the people taking the risk and the people pricing it. Recorded live at conferences around the world, before the story settles.
Episodes
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- Who Owns the Stablecoin Economics? Jacob Laufer on Building with M0 · 19 min · Season 1Jacob Laufer, Chief Growth Officer at M0, joins Kinsa Durst for Open Interest. M0 separates stablecoin issuance from distribution so builders can own more of the economics. Jacob…
- Building an Exchange That Wins With Its Traders: Justin Ma and John Lee on Vest · 27 min · Season 1Vest co-founder and CEO Justin Ma joins Vest’s John Lee for a conversation about building a trading venue around its users. They discuss market microstructure research, perpetual…
- Turning Trading Fees Into a Treasury: DeFi Dave on United Founders Group · 14 min · Season 1DeFi Dave joins Josh Han to explain United Founders Group and its immutable treasury: how trading fees enter the treasury, how token holders redeem a share, and why he wants…
- Bringing Ethereum Apps to Canton: Heslin Kim on Building Zenith · 30 min · Season 1Heslin Kim, co-founder and CBO of Zenith, joins Kinsa Durst to discuss bringing Ethereum applications to the Canton Network. We talk about the gap between institutional networks…
- Bringing Preferred Shares On-Chain: Parker White on Building Apyx · 29 minParker White, founding contributor at Apyx, joins Kinsa Durst for Open Interest. Parker left fixed-income trading for Kraken in 2018, helped launch DFDV, a Solana treasury…
- An Agent of Record: Chris Zhu on Building Donut's Personal Trading Agent · 23 minChris Zhu, founder of Donut, joins Josh Han for Open Interest. Chris mined crypto from a college dorm, built products at ByteDance and co-founded Sonic SVM before starting…
- Charles Lin on What Monad Foundation Looks for in Founders · 16 minCharles Lin of Monad Foundation's ecosystem team joins Kinsa Durst for Open Interest. Charles covers consumer and trading for the foundation after Berkeley, two years in…
- The Law of One Price Is Broken: Chris Kim on Axis, USDx and Arbitrage Yield On-Chain · 12 minChris Kim, CEO and co-founder of Axis, joins Josh Han for Open Interest. Chris spent about ten years as an arbitrageur and market maker in stablecoins and FX, and ran an…
- Gacha Is the Entry Point, Not the Product: Kiet on Chance, Co-op Rips and the Pokémon TCG · 8 minKiet, founder of Chance, joins Kinsa Durst for Open Interest. After seven years in crypto, including Frax Finance and the Arbitrum team at Offchain Labs, Kiet went back into…
- From APY Data to vaults.fyi: Ryan Rodenbaugh on How DeFi Vaults Work · 19 minRyan Rodenbaugh, co-founder and CEO of vaults.fyi, joins Kinsa Durst for Open Interest. vaults.fyi started as a fix for a data problem: every DeFi protocol calculated APY a…
- From BitGo to BNB Chain: Thomas Chen on What Institutions Really Want · 13 min · Season 1 Episode 5Thomas Chen, Chief Business Officer at BNB Chain, joins Kinsa Durst for Open Interest. Thomas made crypto his MBA in 2018, spent six and a half years at BitGo, where he ran…
- Fast Is Not Enough: Enzo Coglitore on Turning GTE Into an AI Trading Co-Pilot · 25 min · Season 1Enzo Coglitore, co-founder of GTE, joins Josh Han for Open Interest. Enzo grew up in Palo Alto, learned markets by running Minecraft and Counter-Strike item trades as a kid, and…
- The Stablecoin Is the Wedge: Drake Evans on Agora, AUSD and a National Trust Bank Charter · 11 min · Season 1Drake Evans, co-founder and CTO of Agora, joins Kinsa Durst for Open Interest. Drake came from private equity and Frax, met Agora co-founder Nick over lunch and was raising…
- From Accenture to Anseta: Brett Hornung on Institutions Going On-Chain and Agentic Payments · 14 min · Season 1Brett Hornung, Chief Commercial Officer of Anseta, joins Kinsa Durst for Open Interest. Brett spent seven and a half years doing enterprise blockchain at Accenture before joining…
- Building Solana's Liquid Staking Layer: FP Lee on Sanctum, Buybacks and Playing the Long Game · 25 min · Season 1FP Lee, co-founder and CEO of Sanctum, joins Josh Han for Open Interest. Sanctum started in 2021 as a side project between school and army friends and became the largest liquid…
- From Zcash to Aleo: Howard Wu on Why Confidentiality Is Crypto's Last Mile · 20 min · Season 1Howard Wu, co-founder of Aleo, joins Josh Han for Open Interest. Howard learned about zero-knowledge proofs from a Wikipedia article, joined the Berkeley lab behind Zcash, and…
- SOL vs HYPE: Forward Industries and Hyperion DeFi Debate the Treasury Company Playbook · 32 min · Season 1Two digital asset treasury companies, one table. Garrison (CMO, Forward Industries, holding SOL) and Hyunsu (CEO, Hyperion DeFi, holding HYPE) make the case for their ecosystems…
- From Coinbase Prime to Definitive: Jai Prasad on Agentic Trading · 11 min · Season 1 Episode 6Jai Prasad, co-founder of Definitive, joins Josh Han for Open Interest. Jai started one of the first on-chain data companies, TokenAnalyst, sold it to Coinbase, helped build…
- From Investment Banking to Mercuryo: Arthur on the Plumbing Behind Crypto Payments · 25 min · Season 1Arthur Firstov, Chief Business Officer at Mercuryo, joins Kinsa Durst for Open Interest. Arthur left investment banking in 2019 to help build what Mercuryo's founders pitched as…
- From CyberConnect to Surf: Shiyu Zhang on AI That Can't Hallucinate With Money · 11 min · Season 1Shiyu Zhang, co-founder of Surf AI, joins Kinsa Durst for Open Interest. Shiyu has been building in crypto since 2017, from the decentralized live-streaming platform DLive to…







