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Phoenix Lessons

Phoenix Lessons

by Amanda Stubbert and Cami Ostman

Latest episode
Waiting for Grief with Amanda and Cami

About this podcast

Most of us, in the course of our adult lives, have experienced the need to reinvent ourselves. Something happens, life blows up, and now we've got to rebuild. It's easy to get so mired in the grief of our losses and transitions that we wander too long amidst the rubble of ideas we once had about ourselves and our lives, hoping we can make something of what is left after our structures have
come crashing down.

But the fabled Phoenix offers us some guidance whenever we
find ourselves needing to remake our lives. Periodically she burns herself up and rises again from her own ashes. It would be lovely if THE BURNING wasn’t necessary for THE RISING to happen. But it usually is. Lucky for all of us, there is always someone who has gone before us—blowing up their life and then coming back as a stronger-than-ever badass—that we can learn from .

Phoenix lessons are the stories and teachings of those who can show us how to climb out of the ashes and fly again.

Come and learn from those who know how to rise!

Episodes

The newest 20 of 52 episodes

  • Waiting for Grief with Amanda and Cami · 30 min · Season 2 Episode 52Send us Fan Mail Grief is woven into the human experience, yet we often spend enormous amounts of energy trying to outrun it, avoid it, or convince ourselves we’ll deal with it…
  • Redefining Dad with David Goldberg · 36 min · Season 2 Episode 47Send us Fan Mail After growing up in the shadow of his parents’ painful divorce and a distant relationship with his father, David Goldberg made a promise to himself: his children…
  • Would You Jump? with Cami & Amanda · 35 min · Season 2 Episode 50Send us Fan Mail Would you jump out of a perfectly good airplane? Amanda and Cami would... and they’ve discovered that skydiving has a lot more to teach us about life than you…
  • Who Am I Now? with Ronit Molko · 50 min · Season 2 Episode 45Send us Fan Mail What happens when you lose your mother at a young age? Move to a new country alone at 18? Or face the end of a marriage while raising two young children? For…
  • Perfectly Exhausted w/ Cami & Amanda · 26 min · Season 2 Episode 48Send us Fan Mail When you survive childhood by being as good as possible, the drive to achieve and please often follows you into adulthood. What coping strategies once kept you…
  • My Otherness Is My Superpower w/ Reza Farahan · 37 min · Season 2 Episode 47Send us Fan Mail From fleeing a war-torn homeland to navigating the chaos of a drama-filled family, Reza Farahan learned early that life rarely follows a straight path. Through…
  • Do You Choose Caution or Risk? w/ Amanda & Cami · 38 min · Season 2 Episode 46Send us Fan Mail When you're faced with a choice, do you play it safe? Do you think about the future before the moment? Or are you the type to leap first and figure it out on the…
  • I Lived to Drink & Drank to Die w/ Daniella Capitano · 46 min · Season 2 Episode 45Send us Fan Mail For years, Daniella Capitano lived with a secret that fueled pain, silence, and addiction. Growing up in a home marked by abuse and hidden truths, she learned to…
  • What vs So What with Amanda & Cami · 30 min · Season 2 Episode 44Send us Fan Mail Plot vs Theme. Fact vs Feeling. What vs So What. The events of our lives may seem straightforward—but the meaning we make from them is where the real story…
  • Ashes, Seeds, and Second Chances with Firdosi Wharton-Ali · 38 min · Season 2 Episode 43Send us Fan Mail After losing her home and everything she owned in the Palisades fire, screenwriter Firdosi Wharton-Ali faced the unimaginable: a chance to begin again from…
  • Jealousy Has Entered the Group Chat with Amanda & Cami · 38 min · Season 2 Episode 42Send us Fan Mail Can men and women really be “just friends”? As When Harry Met Sally declared, “the sex part always gets in the way,” cross-gender friendships have always carried…
  • Final Straw: Rising Without Taking Them With You w/ Ashley Borden · 1 h 17 minSend us Fan Mail Ashley Borden—celebrity fitness coach and no-nonsense truth-teller—has built a career helping others transform their lives. But her own story is just as…
  • Age Without Apology with Amanda & Cami · 28 min · Season 2 Episode 40Send us Fan Mail What does it really mean to be “old?" Is there a moment when you’re supposed to hang up your soccer cleats, retire your dance shoes, or put away the baseball…
  • Final Straw with Mindi Rivin · 32 min · Season 2 Episode 39Send us Fan Mail Meet Final Straw — our bold new series hosted by the incredible Mindi Rivin. Every transformation has a breaking point. That split-second when something inside…
  • Would You Run An Ultramarathon? Cami Did! · 40 min · Season 2 Episode 38Send us Fan Mail Would you run a marathon? Now imagine running two back-to-back—no breaks, no excuses, just grit. Cami doesn’t just test her limits—she obliterates them. After a…
  • Creativity From the Ashes with Amanda & Cami · 30 min · Season 2 Episode 37Send us Fan Mail Creativity isn’t reserved for artists—it’s something every one of us needs. But what happens when you feel burned out, like the fire has gone out and you’re left…
  • One Conversation That Changed Hundreds of Lives with Danielle Neufeld · 39 minSend us Fan Mail Danielle’s master’s degree project took her to Thailand, where she interviewed current and former sex workers. One woman’s answer changed her life forever…
  • Beyond Belief: Getting Religion Out of My Body w/ Heidi Fischbach · 51 min · Season 1 Episode 35Send us Fan Mail After escaping a high-control religious environment, Heidi Fischbach dedicated her life to helping others not just survive—but truly thrive. She holds a master’s…
  • Be Brave, Not Perfect with Amanda & Cami · 26 min · Season 1 Episode 34Send us Fan Mail Do you have a goal, resolution, or “focus” guiding your year? Even with the best intentions, what happens when you miss a day or fall off track? Cami and Amanda…
  • "You'll never earn more than minimum wage!" with Kristi Lyn Reddy · 50 min · Season 1 Episode 33Send us Fan Mail Kristi Lyn Reddy is one of the strongest women we know—and we know a lot of strong women. She rescued herself and her daughter from domestic violence, built a…

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