Talk About That
by John Driver and Jonnie W., Christian Comedy Creatives
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Best Of 2026 | Ghost Camels, Arranged Marriages, and Dyed Souls
Best Of 2026 | Ghost Camels, Arranged Marriages, and Dyed Souls
About this podcast
Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.
Episodes
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- Best Of 2026 | Ghost Camels, Arranged Marriages, and Dyed Souls · 51 min · Season 1 Episode 358John has specific instructions for his wife when he dies, and reveals his obsession with vice grip pliers. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the real villain of the Titanic movie and…
- Best Of 2026 | Movie Theaters, Magic Tricks, and Hardships · 46 min · Season 1 Episode 353John teaches us about the history of candy and ponders growing a skullet. Meanwhile, Jonnie has a senior moment at the movie theater and tries to find out why Betty Ford danced…
- Best Of 2026 | Roadrunner Rules, Bruce Almighty, and Main Character Energy · 54 min · Season 1 Episode 352John ponders whether anyone "hate listens" to the show and makes sermon illustrations out of old cartoons. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us why the first cell phone call was used to…
- Best Of 2026 | Secret Microphones, Escalators, and Reactionaryism · 45 min · Season 11 Episode 348John gets secret messages in his ear during worship and ponders whether we need merch. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets interviewed by an 80's comedy icon and tells us the demographic…
- Best of 2026 | Old Technology, Deathbed Confessions, and Transactional Love · 36 min · Season 1 Episode 349John ponders how many pics of his kid is too many and vigorously defends coconut. Meanwhile, Jonnie reveals what all rock band photos have in common and finds out the terrible…
- Best Of 2026 | Detachable Faces, Red Carnations, and Neighbors · 46 min · Season 1 Episode 347John reads a listener email and wishes we could be a zany Morning Zoo Radio Show. Meanwhile, Jonnie has an important retraction from last week (because he is stupid) and tells us…
- Best of 2026 | Memory Lanes, Grammar Police, and Certainty · 49 min · Season 1 Episode 346John cleans out his office and gets mad at his younger self while listening to some old tapes. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us the history of the windshield wiper and the story of a…
- Best Of 2026 | Healthy Self-Awareness vs Unhealthy Navel-Gazing: What’s the Difference? · 51 min · Season 1 Episode 342"Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life, and you will call it fate." - Carl Jung. Self-awareness is a double-edged sword. Too much of it and you can…
- Best of 2026 | How Gratitude Can Quiet Your Anxiety (Plus Reclaimed Beanies & Going to Movies) · 46 min · Season 1 Episode 340"He who fears he shall suffer, already suffers what he fears." - Michel de Montaigne. This guy said that in the 1500s… so anxiety has been around for a while. In this episode of…
- Thermostat Rules, Banned Scooters, and Childish Things · 46 min · Season 1 Episode 416John can't sleep unless there’s noise and tries to remember math so he can help with his daughter's homework. Meanwhile, Jonnie almost has a heat stroke at a stranger's house in…
- Guilt Trips, Fake Cakes, and Cowboy Presidents · 46 min · Season 1 Episode 415The boys are joined by dear friend and documentary producer Alyson Holland to talk about her new project on Ronald Reagan. John forgets what generation he is in and ponders the…
- Hometowns, Angry Birds, and Folk Music: with Caleb Christopher Edwards! · 48 min · Season 1 Episode 414John forgets the lyrics to his own song and reveals his earliest childhood memory. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders "very special episodes" of 80's sitcoms that dealt with heavy issues…
- Butterfly Kisses, Damaged Guitars, and The Best Revenge · 49 min · Season 1 Episode 413John changes his mind on a cheesy 90's song now that he's a girl dad and ponders whether aliens are real. Meanwhile, Jonnie reveals the commercial jingle that makes him homicidal…
- Old Athletes, Walmart, and Criticism · 47 min · Season 1 Episode 412John plays basketball against some teenagers and finds out that George Lucas was just making Star Wars up as he went along. Meanwhile, Jonnie evicts his uninvited bird guests and…
- Filibusters, IKEA Statues, & Justice · 45 min · Season 1 Episode 411John passes a class without ever opening the textbook and ponders whether he used to preach too long. Meanwhile, Jonnie wonders if train travel is really safe and tells the story…
- Andre The Giant, Ice Cream Etiquette, and Old Friends · 43 min · Season 1 Episode 410John does the work of 3 grown men and learns why Benjamin Franklin was a lot like Andre the Giant. Meanwhile, Jonnie eats the last ice cream bar while out on tour with another…
- Flying Rolls, Young Elvis, and Coincidences · 37 min · Season 1 Episode 409John avoids flying bread and questions whether the Apostle Paul was easy to get along with. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders his comedy origin story and tells the tale of the unfamous…
- Theme Parks, Featherless Chickens, and Compromise · 46 min · Season 1 Episode 408John wants his friends to be honest, even if it hurts—and gets hungry hearing about a tornado in England. Meanwhile, Jonnie learns exactly how many roller coasters it takes to…
- Scary Teens, Terminators, & Persistent Prayers · 39 min · Season 1 Episode 407John is terrified of youth (even though he was a youth pastor) and congratulates Jonnie on his symmetrical face wounds. Meanwhile, Jonnie reveals the surprising star who was…
- Broken Noses, Big Macs, and Trusting God · 43 min · Season 1 Episode 406John goes on a fast to get ready for his time on camera and makes a staunch defense of green peppers. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us the harrowing tale of a gnarly scooter crash that…
- THROWBACK EPISODE: Dog Training, Confused Emus, and Better Forgiveness · 39 min · Season 1 Episode 405This week, take a walk down memory lane from our October 17, 2024 episode where John gets played by his own dog and ponders a replacement for smart phones. Meanwhile, Jonnie…
- Santa Conventions, Lottery Scams, and Mercy · 38 min · Season 1 Episode 404John makes sermon illustrations about soda and hosts a Santa convention at the church. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells the story of Elmo testifying before Congress and wonders if police…
- DVDs, Meeting Your Heroes, and Ragamuffins · 50 min · Season 1 Episode 401John can't find the remote until he finds his glasses and defends his love of McDonald's. Meanwhile, Jonnie feels old after a conversation with a young comedian and tells the…
- April Fools, Pseudonyms, and Noisy Gongs · 36 min · Season 1 Episode 402John prepares for his "Super Bowl" and adds a middle initial to his books. Meanwhile Jonnie channels his inner Chris Farley for a church skit and tells the tale of the Spaghetti…
- Being “Cool,” Distracted Driving, and Humility · 46 min · Season 1 Episode 401John dreams of a month-long train ride and tries not to embarrass himself in front of a Christian music legend. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets a flat tire in the weirdest way possible…
- Sneeze Limits, St. Patrick, and Good Graces · 49 min · Season 1 Episode 400John wishes his girls would get ready faster and writes a children's book about a fish. Meanwhile, Jonnie think March has the most violent holidays, and reveals why he never…
- Spooky Houses, Old Pillows, and Leadership · 39 min · Season 1 Episode 399John rents a haunted AirBnB and ponders podcasting from his deathbed. Meanwhile, Jonnie tries to be a better listener and discovers the terrifying reason he likes hotel pillows…
- Dog Mayors, Hockey, and Fools · 38 min · Season 1 Episode 398John has no idea how ice hockey works and ponders if a cat could get elected mayor. Meanwhile, Jonnie wonders if a big butt helps you or hurts you with a hula hoop and tells the…
- TSA Violations, Tebow, Kid Bank Robbers, and Hope · 46 min · Season 1 Episode 397John tries to sneak a knife onto a plane and aims fireworks at his friends. Meanwhile, Jonnie meets Tim Tebow and tells the story of the time the Pope influenced an entire…
- Winter Olympics, Flying Cows, and Boundaries · 41 min · Season 1 Episode 396Today on Talk About That, John opts out of the Multiverse and goes full "Analog Dad Mode" on a road trip. Meanwhile, Jonnie can't slow down on skis and tells us about the time a…
- Pro Wrestling, Weird Statues, and Obstinate Christians · 44 min · Season 1 Episode 395John learns the difference between further and farther, and tells us "how the sausage is made". Meanwhile, Jonnie visits a town with the strangest monument ever and gets invited…
- Cootie Catchers, Honey Buns, and Submission · 50 min · Season 1 Episode 394John preaches in a beanie and finds a luxurious toilet. Meanwhile, Jonnie almost shatters his windshield, and argues against the need for trees. Plus, a conversation about prayer…
- Broken Trees, 6-7, and Sins of the Flesh · 51 min · Season 1 Episode 393John wonders if trees are weaker in the South and prepares for Y2K with his dad. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders getting a taser and thinks Groucho Marx would've loved the new "6-7"…
- Snow-mageddon, Stolen Cable, and Legacy · 42 min · Season 1 Episode 392John has extreme generator FOMO as the big winter storm approaches and hopes his robot bed doesn't become self aware. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets bougie in the movie theater and tells…
- Opening Acts, Monkey Co-hosts, and Certainty · 38 min · Season 1 Episode 391John flies on a private jet and gets ignored by young people. Meanwhile, Jonnie uses two high schoolers as his opening act and invents a historical new drink. Plus, a…
- Farming, Mediocrity, and Trust · 49 min · Season 1 Episode 390John listens to one of his daughter's favorite podcasts and ponders why someone would want to buy Hitler's old car. Meanwhile, Jonnie resolves to be mediocre in 2026 and tells us…
- Movie Adaptations, “Justified” Shoplifting, and Vice · 40 min · Season 1 Episode 389John finally gets into reading fiction, but hates it when the movie ends different than the book. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets a random Venmo from a listener who is trying to keep him…
- Fake Trees, Illegal Christmas, and Greatness · 50 min · Season 1 Episode 388John brings glowsticks to church and the crowd goes wild. Meanwhile, Jonnie rides in the back of a truck in January with a 300 lb television and tells the tale of Grandfather…
- SPECIAL Christmas Compilation Episode! · 48 min · Season 1 Episode 387John and Jonnie bring you past clips from some of their favorite holiday moments of the podcast over the years. FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver…
- Aluminum Trees, Bad Candy, and Synthetic Connection · 34 min · Season 1 Episode 386John reveals his least favorite candy and learns what beloved TV special killed the aluminum Christmas tree industry. Meanwhile, Jonnie has lunch with some comedian pals and…
- Movie Candy, Rabies, and Pottery Class · 51 min · Season 1 Episode 385John questions the morality of sneaking in outside candy to the movies. Meanwhile, Jonnie joins the podcast remotely from snowy Michigan and tells the history of the phrase…
- Laughing Gas, Thanksgiving History, and Prayer · 35 min · Season 1John gets his wisdom teeth out and experiences time travel. Meanwhile, Jonnie searches for a loyal dog and shares historical facts about Thanksgiving. Plus, a conversation about…
- Flying Pigs, Shipwrecks, and Sanctification · 46 min · Season 1 Episode 383John ponders whether AI will take our podcasting jobs and hates when his favorite shows "jump the shark.” Meanwhile, Jonnie gets a WAY too firm handshake from an audience member…
- Super Glue, Exploding Whales, and Thankfulness · 34 min · Season 1 Episode 382John's standing desk goes rogue and he learns a musical use for Super Glue. Meanwhile, Jonnie reveals why the sandwich was invented and tells the tale of the exploding whale in…
- Favorite Chairs, Shattered Backboards, and Loving Our Enemies · 31 min · Season 1 Episode 381John finds his bald band of brothers and hopes he eventually gets a recliner. Meanwhile, Jonnie visits a famous golf destination and reveals yet another 80's political scandal…
- Retractions, Dust Mites, and Grace · 36 min · Season 1 Episode 380John takes an "L" when he issues a snarky retraction about typewriters and brags about his ability to worry. Meanwhile, Jonnie learns a troubling fact about pillows and hopes…
- Steroid Shots, Bad Eyes, and Dehumanization · 42 min · Season 1 Episode 379John gets over his fear of needles and gets emotional listening to Guns N Roses. Meanwhile, Jonnie figures out his eyes are failing while hanging out with a younger person and…
- Nacho Libre, Adult Braces, and Misinformation · 47 min · Season 1 Episode 378John reminisces on his childhood days as a pool shark and tells us why he is a prisoner in his own mouth. Meanwhile, Jonnie decides minivans aren't so bad and begins a frantic…
- Tunnels, Sarcasm, and Encouragement · 33 min · Season 1 Episode 377John is enamored with his car's technology and patiently awaits Nashville's new tunnel system. Meanwhile, Jonnie does a show for people in recovery and tells the tale of a woman…
- Nixon's Pup, Guy Movies, and Failure · 34 min · Season 1 Episode 376John wants a 3D printed liver and spends a week at home alone watching movies his wife would hate. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders how adorable old political scandals are when compared…
