The Vertical SaaS Podcast
by Gavin Savage
How a Theatre Teacher and an Entrepreneur Built Ludus: The Software…
About this podcast
The vSaaS Podcast delves into the journeys of visionary founders, software leaders, and industry experts who are building category-defining vertical software for overlooked and underserved sectors.
If you want to nerd out on vertical SaaS, this podcast is for you.
At Xenata, we’re on a mission to bring you the untold stories behind building innovative teams and groundbreaking products. From that first spark of an idea to scaling a fully realized business, we’re here to shine a light on the wins, the lessons, and the future of Vertical SaaS
We dive into startup culture with a focus on fostering seamless collaboration across all business functions, empowering top talent with valuable insights to transition from senior contributors or founding members into strategic leaders and executives
Get ready to hear from seed-stage entrepreneurs, unicorn founders, and industry experts as they share insights, practical advice, and their passion for creating the next wave of Vertical SaaS innovation.
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Episodes
- How a Theatre Teacher and an Entrepreneur Built Ludus: The Software Powering Performing Arts with Zachary Collins · 49 min · Season 2 Episode 2In this episode, Gavin Savage sits down with Zachary Collins, CEO & Co-Founder of Ludus, one of the most quietly impressive vertical SaaS companies in the US. Ludus didn’t start…
- Building the Legal Stack: Retrieval, Context, and Real-World ROI, with Nitish Mutha, Co-founder & CTO of Genie AI · 43 min · Season 2 Episode 1In this episode of The Vertical SaaS Podcast, Gavin Savage sits down with Nitish Mutha, Co-founder and CTO of Genie AI, to unpack how the company is building the next generation…
- Wedges, Wrappers, and Alligator Blood: Nick Tippmann, Founder & GP at TipTop VC on Scaling Vertical SaaS and Spotting Real AI · 47 min · Season 1 Episode 18In this episode of The Vertical SaaS Podcast, host Gavin Savage sits down with Nick Tippmann, Managing Director at TipTop Ventures and founding CMO of Greenlight Guru, to unpack…
- Is CLM Dead? Rebuilding Legal Infrastructure in the Agentic AI Era With Simon McCarthy · 53 min · Season 1 Episode 17On this episode of The Vertical SaaS Podcast, host Gavin Savage sits down with Simon McCarthy, VP of Enterprise Transformation at ContractPod AI, to unpack what’s broken in…
- Beyond the Contract: Agentic AI, Adoption and Burnout. How AI Is Shaping In-House Legal in 2025 - with Richard Mabey, CEO of Juro · 1 h 5 min · Season 1 Episode 16In this packed episode, Host Gavin Savage sits down with Richard Mabey, former M&A lawyer at Freshfields and now one of the leading voices in legaltech, to unpack the most urgent…
- Adpative Co-Founder Arik Yelovitch on Vertical SaaS 3.0: Early Stage Comp Hacks, Climate Models, Insurtech & Vibe Coding · 1 h 8 min · Season 1 Episode 15In this episode, Gavin Savage sits down with Arik Yelovitch, co-founder of Adaptive Insurance, to talk about the intersection of AI, fintech, climate tech, and Vertical SaaS 3.0…
- Embedding Insurance in the SaaS Stack: Tint’s 7x Growth Story and Redefining Risk with CEO Matheus Riolfi · 37 min · Season 1 Episode 14In this episode, host Gavin Savage is joined by Matheus Riolfi, co-founder and CEO of Tint, the embedded insurance platform powering companies like Turo, Deel, and Montway…
- From Billable Hours to Legal SaaS: Democratising and Productising Legal Services with Kim Simmonds · 44 min · Season 1 Episode 13On this week's episode of The Vertical SaaS Podcast, host Gavin Savage sits down with Kim Simmonds, founder and CEO of Law 365 and Cloud Contracts 365, to explore the…
- Law in Translation: Voice Tech, AI, and Building a Legal Community at Scale with Patricia Gannon · 38 min · Season 1 Episode 12In this episode of The Vertical SaaS Podcast, Gavin Savage sits down with Patricia Gannon, founder and CEO of Platforum9, a voice-first platform reimagining how the legal…
- Reinventing In-House Legal: Ned Gannon on AI, Agentic Models, and the Legal Front Door · 35 min · Season 1 Episode 11Summary In this episode of The Vertical SaaS Podcast, Gavin Savage sits down with Ned Gannon, Co-Founder and CEO of Coheso, an AI-powered legaltech startup transforming how…
- Domain Expertise, AI B2B Marketplaces & Industrial SaaS: Clement Cazalot on Scaling vSaaS · 49 min · Season 1 Episode 10In this episode of The Vertical SaaS Podcast, Gavin Savage sits down with Clement Cazalot, CEO of Machinery Partner, to explore his journey into technology and entrepreneurship…
- From Lawyer to Legal Tech Leader, The AI Revolution & Arms Race in Law with Robin AI’s Frederik Muelke · 54 min · Season 1 Episode 9In this episode of The Vertical SaaS Podcast, host Gavin Savage sits down with Frederik Muelke, Head of Alternative Assets at Robin AI, a Legaltech startup leveraging AI to…
- From Wall Street to Silicon Valley: Jessica Chen-Riolfi on building Uprise, AI in Fintech, and Lessons for Founders · 46 min · Season 1 Episode 8Summary In this episode of the Vertical SaaS podcast, Gavin Savage interviews Jessica Chen-Riolfi, co-founder of Uprise, an AI-driven financial advisory platform for small…
- Scaling Rocketships, Scar Tissue and Building a Culture of Ownership with Blakely Cragun · 46 min · Season 1 Episode 7Summary In this episode of the Vertical SaaS Podcast, Host Gavin Savage interviews Blakely, the Chief Strategy Officer of Redo, who shares his extensive journey through the tech…
- Navigating Vertical SaaS Growth: AI, unbundling, M&A, and Domain Expertise with Alun Baker · 48 min · Season 1 Episode 6In this episode, Host Gavin Savage interviews Alun Baker, a seasoned growth and transformation specialist who has led over $1.6 billion in transactions, 3 successful exits, and…
- From Product to Performance: AI, Growth, and Team Culture in Insurtech with SageSure's Eli Bozeman · 52 min · Season 1 Episode 5Summary In this episode of the Vertical SaaS Podcast, hosts Gavin Savage and Ben Brown welcome Eli Bozeman, Assistant Vice President of Product at SageSure. The conversation…
- The Future of Integration: AI Driven Transformation and Startup Challenges with Jitterbit's Jeremy Parker and Jamil Jaoui · 46 min · Season 1 Episode 4Summary In this episode of the Vertical SaaS podcast, Gavin Savage hosts Jeremy Parker and Jamil Jaoui from Jitterbit. They discuss their backgrounds, the mission of Jitterbit…
- From Courtooms to Code: Karl Seelbach on Transforming Legaltech with Skribe AI · 47 min · Season 1 Episode 3Summary In this episode of the Vertical SaaS podcast, Gavin Savage interviews Karl Seelbach, a legal tech entrepreneur and managing partner of a law firm. They discuss Karl's…
- The Impact of AI on Legal Work And The Future Of Legal Services · 47 min · Season 1 Episode 2Summary In this episode of The Vertical SaaS podcast, Gavin Savage interviews Cain Elliott, the Chief Legal Futurist at Filevine. They discuss the transformative role of AI in…
- What is Vertical SaaS And Is It Outpacing Horizontal SaaS? · 29 min · Season 1 Episode 1Summary In this engaging conversation, Gavin Savage interviews Nic Poulos, founder and managing partner at Euclid Ventures, discussing the evolution and significance of vertical…







