About this podcast
Welcome to #andTHATSaPodConvo
We aren’t your therapists, but with our wild takes on pop culture, sports, and the “piping hot” local or “organic” tea, we might as well be. Consider this your official invitation to the conversations that happen at 2 AM, or after a round of drinks, or ULTIMATELY - you weren’t supposed to overhear.
and THAT’s another couple of gays with a pod
Look, we know. The world probably didn’t need two more queer men with microphones, but after the thousandth time we said, “Man, if we would have recorded that, it would’ve been a goldmine,” we realized we were doing the public a disservice.
So... we finally hit record.
Episodes
- and THAT's a Midnight Convo: 🌙 Chapter IV: The Final Chapter · 1 h 17 min · Season 1 Episode 20The costumes are overpriced, the horror franchises are overdone, and apparently, we're still paying money to be scared. HAPPY HALLOWEEN, GROUP CHAT! 👻 We've officially reached…
- and THAT's a Midnight Convo: 🌙 Chapter III: Ghostly Misconduct · 44 min · Season 1 Episode 19Some ghosts haunt houses. Others haunt your DMs. And apparently, neither knows how to behave. Welcome to Chapter III of our AFTER DARK series, where things are getting a little…
- and THAT's a Midnight Convo: 🌙 Chapter II: Death Becomes Us · 1 h 5 min · Season 1 Episode 18💀🕯️ Death. The one thing we all have in common, yet somehow nobody wants to talk about it. Well, naturally, JJ and Jed are going there. In Chapter II of our AFTER DARK series…
- and THAT's a Midnight Convo: 🌙 Chapter I: Very Superstitious · 59 min · Season 1 Episode 17and THAT’s a MIDNIGHT Convo: an AFTER DARK Series Something wicked this way comes… and we’re knocking on wood that it’s not us. 🔮 The clock has struck midnight, the candles are…
- Ep 16: and THAT's not THAT deep... or is it? · 54 min · Season 1 Episode 16Is it actually that deep… or did we just turn a minor inconvenience into a full emotional investigation? This week on and THAT’s a pod convo, we’re diving into relationships…
- Ep 15: and THAT's and, but, or BULLSHIT! · 1 h 0 min · Season 1 Episode 15You can miss them AND never want them back. You can love your job AND fucking hate going to work. You can be happy for your friend AND jealous as hell. You can understand why…
- Ep. 14: and THAT’s some sibling shit · 1 h 11 min · Season 1 Episode 14Nobody knows how to love you, expose you, humble you, and piss you the fuck off quite like a sibling. This week, we’re getting into some sibling shit—the favorite child…
- Ep 13: and That's a School Survival Guide · 1 h 11 min · Season 1 Episode 13Class is officially back in session—and unfortunately, we have thoughts. This week, John Jacob and Jed are going back to school… kind of. We’re talking first-day fits, cafeteria…
- Ep 12: and THAT’s the ICK. 🤢 · 1 h 3 min · Season 1 Episode 12You know the feeling. Everything is going great, the attraction is there, and then they do one tiny thing and suddenly… you can never look at them the same way again. But what…
- Ep 11: and THAT's For You · 1 h 2 min · Season 1 Episode 11After a 1 week Hiatus I say... Hand over your phone. No, seriously. Would you let your parents see your For You Page? Your partner? Your best friend? Because this week, we're…
- Ep 10: and THAT's not my friend anymore... ⛓️💥 · 1 h 2 min · Season 1 Episode 10Friendship breakups don't always come with slammed doors, dramatic fights, or one person to blame. Sometimes they happen quietly. Life changes, priorities shift, and one day you…
- Ep 9: and THAT's the other 11 months · 1 h 7 min · Season 1 Episode 9What does allyship look like when the Pride flags come down? Inspired by a listener question, John Jacob and Jed dive into the uncomfortable gray areas of allyship—especially…
- Ep 8: and THAT's Red, White, and CHAOS! 🎇 · 1 h 12 min · Season 1 Episode 8🚨 BREAKING NEWS: John Jacob went on a date. 🤯 No, seriously. We were just as shocked as you are. This week's Fourth of July episode starts with one innocent question: What's more…
- Ep 7: Who We Are Now, Who We’ve Always Been, Who We Will Always Be 🌈 · 1 h 10 min · Season 1 Episode 7The final chapter of our Pride Series is here. Joined by Ryan Oelrich, we talk about religion, identity, marriage, finding yourself, sword swallowing (yes, the literal kind… and…
- Ep 6: and THAT's Healing... unfortunately 🌈 · 1 h 15 min · Season 1 Episode 6Welcome back to and THAT’s a Pride Convo. This week, we're tackling the part of Pride nobody really warns you about: healing... unfortunately. After spending years pretending…
- Ep 5: and THAT's Survival Mode 🌈 · 59 min · Season 1 Episode 5This week, Jed and John Jacob are fresh off Pride Weekend and asking the important questions: Are our toxic traits actually personality traits? Why are fish photos still…
- Ep 4: and THAT's not JUST a phase. 🌈 · 1 h 18 min · Season 1 Episode 4🌈 and THAT's not JUST a phase. 🌈 For Episode 2 of and THAT's a PRIDE convo, we're joined by Anthony, Momo, and Lizette to talk about the signs, the denial, the phases, and the…
- Ep 3: and THAT's Cruising, Grande, TS, & Horror 🚢🎤🧸 · 1 h 16 min · Season 1 Episode 3🚢✨ DOUBLE DROP ALERT ✨🚢 This week, we're giving you two episodes because apparently one conversation wasn't enough. We're talking about Jed's latest cruise adventures, Ariana…
- Ep 2: and THAT's a VERY Loud Closet 🌈 · 1 h 10 min · Season 1 Episode 2For the first episode of and THAT's a PRIDE convo, we're joined by Robert "Robbie" Thompson for a conversation about closets, performances, and the versions of ourselves we…
- Ep 1: and THAT’s a new HOST! 🎙️⚰️✨ · 1 h 3 min · Season 1 Episode 1Well… after only one official episode, Josh is no longer with us. No, seriously. Gone. Vanished. Taken by the podcast gods. Thoughts and prayers. 🕯️ So naturally, we did what any…







