Between Two Beers Podcast
by Steven Holloway & Seamus Marten
How to Scale a Business in NZ: Rowan Simpson Answers Your Questions
About this podcast
Good questions. Great guests. Few beers... Steve and Seamus like asking good questions. And they love good answers. After over 20 years of friendship, they bought a microphone and started a podcast, allowing them to sit with, and learn from, the most interesting people they can access.
From Kiwi legend Marc Ellis, to media personalities Jeremy Wells and Paddy Gower, Rugby coach extraordinaire Wayne Smith, sexologist Morgan Penn, and Olympian Dame Lisa Carrington... Between Two Beers has produced countless hours of incredible stories, career highs, lows and moments of raw vulnerability. All from the One NZ Studio.
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Episodes
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- How to Scale a Business in NZ: Rowan Simpson Answers Your Questions · 47 minWhat changes when your business gets bigger than you? Rowan Simpson, employee #3 at Trade Me and an early Xero investor, is back for a second session with Steve, Seamus and…
- Kane Williamson: The Full Story - Walking Away, The Virat Kohli Call & the 2019 Final · 2 h 26 min · Episode 281Five months after retiring from international cricket, Kane Williamson sits down for a rare long-form conversation. He explains why he stepped away between tests against England…
- Paddy Gower Returns to Discuss Election Night, Kane Williamson’s Golf Sim Obsession & More! · 1 h 2 minFive years ago Paddy Gower came on Between Two Beers over a lockdown video call, sitting between about seven craft beers. He’s back on Hambassadors, and he’s now off the drink…
- Dame Catriona Williams: Paralysed at 32, Raising $28 Million for Spinal Research & Standing Again · 1 h 32 min · Episode 280NZ showjumper and eventer Catriona Williams broke her neck in a fall from a horse and became tetraplegic. Fourteen months into her marriage, she told her husband Sam to leave. He…
- Trade Me & Xero’s Rowan Simpson Picks Apart Our Business · 58 minIs your business a pet or livestock? Rowan Simpson, employee #3 at Trade Me and an early Xero investor, sits down with Steve, Seamus and business coach Di Foster to pick apart…
- Brad Iles: The Golf Prodigy Who Survived a Coma, Beat Rory McIlroy & Walked Away From It All · 1 h 54 min · Episode 279As a teenager, Brad Iles was a world schools golf champion, and Michael Campbell called him one of the best talents to come out of New Zealand in a long time. At 20, he fell off…
- Off Grid with Gemma McCaw’s Group, Becki Ross’ Farewell & What We’ve Learned from Life-Story Interviews · 45 minWe reflect on Becki Ross' beautiful send-off at Lake Karāpiro, hearing her mum mention Between Two Beers in her speech, and what happens for guests long after the mics go off…
- Sex & Relationship Coach Melissa Vranjes: How to Fix Mismatched Libido & Reconnect in the Bedroom · 1 h 55 min · Episode 278This one’s an adults-only episode - sexual themes and language throughout, so maybe not for the school drop-off. 18+. Melissa Vranjes is a certified holistic sex and…
- Switching Off, Exiting Survival Mode & the Stories That Hold Us Back · 41 minWhat if the thing holding back your business - and your life - isn’t a strategy problem, but a story you’ve been telling yourself? This week, business coach Di Foster sits down…
- Mike King: Comedy, Rock Bottom & the Truth About I Am Hope · 2 h 22 min · Episode 277Content warning: This episode contains frank discussion of addiction, depression, suicide and self-harm, and may not be suitable for all listeners. Please take care while…
- One NZ Warriors CEO Cam George on 2026 Season, A Tribute to Becki Ross & Why We Turn Down Politicians · 59 minContent note: this contains a tribute to our friend and former guest Becki Ross and touches on assisted dying - please listen with care. In this one: we open by accidentally…
- Nathan Fa'avae: New Zealand's Greatest Adventure Racer · 1 h 56 min · Episode 276He's one of New Zealand's greatest ever athletes - 7x Adventure Racing World Championships, a decade unbeaten on the biggest races on the planet, and a record-breaking 1,000-mile…
- Seamus & Di Foster 1:1: How to Find Your Voice & Learn to Say No · 32 minDi sits down one on one with Seamus for an honest session about the thing he finds hardest: using his voice. They get into why he defaults to making everyone else okay at his…
- Gilbert Enoka: The All Blacks' Mind Coach on Pressure, Loss & What Actually Builds a Team (Re-Release) · 1 h 53 minGilbert Enoka is back with the All Blacks. After 23 years and 304 tests as their mental skills coach - two World Cup wins along the way - he stepped away in 2023, worked with…
- The Halberg Golf Day, Embarrassing Hobbies & Questions for a Sexologist · 49 minSteve reports back from the inaugural Halberg Golf Day at Royal Auckland - a celebrity auction, a plus-handicap playing partner, a 21-under round and a great cause. Meanwhile the…
- Dave Wood: Be Your Own Voice - Pressure, Performance & Knowing When to Pull Back · 1 h 45 minThe thing that gets you to the top is rarely the thing that keeps you there. Dave Wood is the first guest ever invited back on Between Two Beers three times. A former lifeguard…
- We Asked Geoff Ross & Grant Baker What They'd Do With Our Business · 40 minSteve, Seamus and Di sat down with two former Between Two Beers guests - Geoff Ross and Grant Baker, the founders behind 42 Below, Moa, Trilogy and Ecoya - and asked them one…
- Gloria Masters: Surviving Child Abuse, the Signs Every Parent Should Know & Finding Hope · Episode 274The silent epidemic harming Kiwi kids - and the survivor determined to end it. For the first sixteen years of her life, Gloria Masters endured abuse most New Zealanders would…
- Mark Law Returns to Answer Your Questions, Our Office Golf Simulator & Kane Williamson Live · 55 minThe boys are back behind the scenes of Between Two Beers. This week a golf simulator lands in the office, the Kane Williamson live podcast at Made, a debrief on meeting Grant…
- Louis Davis: NZ's Biggest Content Creator on Belief, Fatherhood & Living Off the Land · 1 h 31 min · Episode 273Louis Davis is the biggest content creator in New Zealand - 3.8 million followers, 3.5 billion views in a year, and TikTok Creator of the Year. But the numbers are, in his words…
- How Marcus Logan Built a 10-Person Agency from 0 - Niching, Balance & Hiring · 51 minEvery founder hits the point where the business stops being something they do and becomes who they are. Marcus Logan - "Marketing Marcus" - built his agency from a one-man band…
- Gemma McCaw on Olympic Career, Motherhood, Identity & Leaving Richie McCaw on Seen · 1 h 34 min · Episode 272Gemma McCaw has played over 250 times for New Zealand and been to three Olympic Games - but this conversation is about who she is when the hockey stops. In a rare long-form…
- Checking In With Nate Alley: 500 Messages, 10 Weeks On & a Proud-Dad Moment With Kiwi Music Legends · 53 minBehind the scenes on a big week: Steve's son takes the stage at Clarence St Theatre in Hamilton, sharing the bill with some of New Zealand's best-known musicians - a proud-dad…
- Mark Law: SAS Soldier on Surviving Death Six Times & The White Island Rescue · 1 h 55 min · Episode 271Mark Law passed New Zealand SAS selection at 18 - the youngest ever to do it - and his life since has read like fiction. In this episode we trace the whole arc: a rugged…
- The Marketer Behind Between Two Beers - Marcus Logan on Social Media for Businesses in 2026 · 39 minThe first-ever guest steps into the Accidental Business Owners studio - and it's the man who markets our show, and who’s content you see on our social media channels. Marcus…
- Sean Fitzpatrick: Winning in South Africa, Jonah Lomu & Leading the All Blacks (Re-Release) · 1 h 40 minSean Fitzpatrick is one of the most decorated All Blacks of all time. A World Cup winner, one of the game's great captains, and the man who led the last New Zealand side to tour…
- Israel Dagg Checks In, MC'ing for John Key Goes Wrong & A New SAS Guest on the Way! · 50 minTwo weeks ago, Israel Dagg sat down for what's become one of the biggest episodes we've ever released, and it turned his fortnight upside down. So we brought him back to find…
- Grant Baker: The Business of Going All In - 42 Below, Turners & Liam Lawson · 2 h 7 min · Episode 270Grant Baker started with nothing - biking to sales meetings and hiding the bike around the corner so clients wouldn't know he couldn't afford a car. He'd go on to build and sell…
- Auditing Our Own Podcast - What the Whole Team Told Us to Change · 39 minor the first time in seven years, we got the whole team in one room and did something uncomfortable: we audited our own podcast. Eight people, one question on the table - if we…
- Living with Incurable Cancer: Becki Ross on Planning Her Own Funeral & Learning “Not to Give a Sh*t" · 1 h 57 min · Episode 269Becki Ross was given two to three years to live. Diagnosed at 42 with stage four, incurable bowel cancer, she's a mum of two teenagers, a teacher, and one of those rare people…
- Behind the Izzy Dagg Episode & Our New Dream Guest List (Post-Graham Norton) · 42 minSteven and Seamus go behind the scenes of the Izzy Dagg episode that's gone massive - the research calls, why Izzy almost didn't tell his story, and the reaction that's followed…
- Israel Dagg Comes Clean on Addiction, Depression & Getting Sober After Rock Bottom · 1 h 54 min · Episode 268Israel Dagg had everything he'd ever chased - a Rugby World Cup, a young family, the life a kid from a Hawke's Bay state house could only dream of. Then he retired, and the…
- “Is This Still the Dream?” - Consolidating, Stepping Back & Building the Team · 47 minWe are back from the World Cup with a case of post-event blues and a bigger question: we built our dream - but, is it still the dream? In this consolidation episode, we share…
- Justine Smith on 7 Days, Surviving as a Female Comedian & Her Incredible Adoption Story · 1 h 47 min · Episode 267Justine Smith has been a fixture of New Zealand comedy for more than 30 years - a Seven Days regular and one of the few women who lasted in a room that pushed most others out…
- The Graham Norton Debrief, World Cup Conspiracies & Why New Dads Are a Spare Part · 42 minWe debrief on Seamus' dream guest, Graham Norton - with Sammy and Char on the mics to break down how it went, and how dusty Steve was at the 5.30am start. Then the boys dig into…
- Graham Norton: The Hidden Psychology of the World's Biggest Chat Show & What Success Really Means · 1 h 5 min · Episode 266He's spent nearly 30 years getting the world's biggest stars to open up - but Graham Norton rarely sits on the other side of the mic. The most famous chat show host on the…
- The World Cup Debrief: What Went Well, What Didn’t & What We'd Do Again · 38 minYou can pour everything into the biggest thing you'll ever build - and still find the part you remember has nothing to do with the work. Fresh off three weeks at the FIFA World…
- Golden State Warriors Psychologist Scott Goldman: The Science of Winning · 1 h 42 min · Episode 265He's got a championship ring his own kids have never seen - it lives in a closet. Scott Goldman is a high-performance psychologist who's spent 30 years inside some of the…
- Our Chaotic World Cup Tour, A 6am Graham Norton Podcast & Catching up with Steven Adams · 38 minThe boys are back on home soil to unpack the most chaotic three weeks of the show's life. They relive the Radio & Podcast Awards and unpack the World Cup experience: 19 daily…
- Jason Gunn: What a Heart Attack Taught Him About Success, Family & Grief (Re-Release) · 1 h 49 minJason Gunn is one of New Zealand's most beloved entertainers - but behind the energy, the warmth, and the laugh, is a man who has faced some of life's hardest moments. In this…
- “What Are You Actually Building This For?” Seamus & Di’s Emotional 1:1 · 32 minSeamus arrives feeling it: New baby at home. A World Cup project about to go live. A calendar that was built before either of those things was certain, now collapsing on top of…
- Rob Cope: What Parents Don't Know About Keeping Kids Safe in 2026 · 1 h 35 min · Episode 264Rob Cope has spoken to over 40,000 New Zealand parents about the dangers hiding in their children's online world. In this episode, he delivers the talk every parent needs to…
- All Whites vs Iran: Watching History from Inside the World Cup · 52 minNew Zealand drew 2-2 with Iran in one of the great All Whites performances - scoring twice, leading twice, and finishing top of Group G on goal difference. Eli Just became the…
- Inside the Polkinghorne Case & the Mind of NZ's Greatest Writer - Steve Braunias · 1 h 59 min · Episode 263Steve Braunias sat through every day of the Polkinghorne trial - the society murder that gripped New Zealand - and wrote the bestselling book on it. He liked the accused. He…
- Our Business Coach Quits On-Air? Why Fun Is the Strategy Right Now · 24 minDi Foster arrived ready to coach. Then she realised the smartest coaching move was to stop coaching. In this episode she explains why: Between Two Beers is in ‘execution…
- Futurist Frances Valintine: NZ's Looming Demographic Crisis & the Future of Work · 2 h 34 min · Episode 262Futurist Frances Valintine (founder of Academy X and Tech Futures Lab) joins the show to map what New Zealand actually looks like in twenty years, and it's a sobering picture…
- Exclusive Access to Tim Payne? Our Football World Cup Trip Shapes Up · 47 minThe boys are back behind the scenes, and the World Cup is almost here. Seamus and Steve break down the wild Tim Payne phenomenon - how an All Whites right-back with 4,000…
- Matthew Ridge Tells All: Wrongful Conviction, Addiction & Working with Marc Ellis (Re-Release) · 1 h 52 minMatthew Ridge is one of New Zealand's most recognisable sporting figures - All Blacks captain, NRL star, television personality. But behind the swagger and the highlights reel is…
- “Don’t Believe You Own BS!” - Behind the Scenes of the World Cup, TVNZ Deal & Steven Adams · 42 minIt’s been our biggest six months ever - landing on TVNZ+, heading to the World Cup, and sitting down with Steven Adams. Steve and Seamus sit down with business and mindset coach…
- Darren Shand: 20 Years Inside the All Blacks' Golden Era · 2 h 45 min · Episode 261For 20 years, Darren Shand was the most powerful person in All Blacks rugby that nobody knew about. As Team Manager across four Rugby World Cups - including the back-to-back…







