Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom
by From Klaus Haus Productions, featuring Tom Klaus and Lamar Roth
S4E22 - What does it mean to be a political moderate?
About this podcast
A "3rd Space" is a space where two or more people with differing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. In this podcast two lifelong friends, Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus, carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom features an exploration of how to talk with one another about significant, even controversial, issues with grace and humor. Occasionally Lamar & Tom will welcome guests to the show.
Episodes
The newest 20 of 76 episodes
- S4E22 - What does it mean to be a political moderate? · 47 min · Season 4 Episode 22About this Episode In this episode Lamar and Tom have a “table talk” on what it means to be a political moderate, centrist, or independent while reflecting on how they choose…
- S4E21 - A conversation with David Bentler, author of Brotherhood in War & Peace · 59 min · Season 4 Episode 21Where were you when the U.S. was at war, whether it was Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and, now, Iran? More importantly, how did you feel about where you were? Lamar and Tom welcome…
- S4E20 - Violence in the WNBA. What's going on? · 45 min · Season 4 Episode 20A new version of an old Rodney Dangerfield joke: “I went to a women’s boxing match and a WNBA game broke out.” In the 30th season of the WNBA this seems to have been more true…
- S4E19 - The Role of Humor in Conflict and Controversy - A Table Talk · 45 minUh oh. The guys are back from their August break and they are ready to talk! Today Lamar and Tom respond to a listener’s question about the use of humor in conflict and…
- S4E18 - A Conversation with Walt Michael of Common Ground on the Hill · 60 min · Season 4 Episode 18Do you know how to combine music, traditional arts, and conversation to create a space where diverse groups of people come together to learn and share with one another? We don’t…
- S4E17 Encore of But What Can I Do? (S4E5) · 60 min · Season 4 Episode 17"But what can I do?” This is a question we are getting with greater frequency from our followers, listeners, and viewers. We’re going to try to answer that question…with a little…
- S4E16 Encore of A Table Talk on Democracy with Historian Joel Kauffman · 58 min · Season 4 Episode 16What is the state of our democracy in the U.S. today? What does it mean to be a democracy? Lamar and Tom check in with historian Joel Kauffman on these and other questions. Joel…
- S4E15 - A Conversation on Practical Kindness with Erica Marks · 58 min · Season 4 Episode 15What’s the difference between being “kind” and “nice?” Are they mutually exclusive? Can you be both at the same time? Join us for a conversation with #BeHumankind practitioner…
- S4E14 - Lamar & Tom Talk Fine Art Photography · 56 min · Season 4 Episode 13What is the difference between “fine art photography” and “taking pictures”? Nope, not your usual topic for our podcast. Plus, we’ve got pictures to share with you! Lamar Roth…
- S4E13 - Happy 250th Birthday, USA!?!? · 53 min · Season 4 Episode 13July 4, 2026 is the 250th Birthday of the United States of America. How are you planning to acknowledge this experiment in democracy that has lasted a quarter of a millennium? In…
- S4E12 A Conversation with The Iowa Investigator · 57 minThe Iowa Investigator tells 3-minute stories about his home state of Iowa. He has at least 85 thousand followers on TikTok and 31 thousand followers on Facebook and Instagram…
- S4E11 - What's With Memorial Day? · 45 min · Season 4 Episode 11Memorial Day is this week and today’s podcast features a Table Talk between Lamar and Tom about the meaning of Memorial Day and its origins. You may be surprised by what you…
- S4E10 - A Table Talk on School Choice with Educator LaMonte Rothrock · 58 min · Season 4 Episode 10Starting In 2027 the One Big Beautiful Bill Act (signed in 2025) enables scholarships for private school tuition, tutoring, and transportation for families with incomes up to…
- S4E9 - Are We Making a Difference? · 46 min · Season 4 Episode 8You know about earworms, right? It’s a piece of music that gets stuck in your brain and won’t leave you alone. (“Baaabeee shark…”) Sorry about that. There are questions that are…
- S4E8 - A Table Talk on Democracy with Historian Joel Kauffman · 54 min · Season 4 Episode 8What is the state of our democracy in the U.S. today? What does it mean to be a democracy? Lamar and Tom check in with historian Joel Kauffman on these and other questions. Joel…
- S4E7 - 2nd Annual Oddly True for April Fools' Day · 47 min · Season 4 Episode 7It’s Lamar & Tom’s Second Annual Oddly True for April Fools’ Day podcast! Here’s how it works. Each tells the other three stories ripped from the headlines that are odd but true…
- S4E6 - Rumors of War · 30 min · Season 4 Episode 6Have you ever felt disconnected from the decisions that shape our world? Today Lamar and Tom are discussing the tragic loss of six Iowa National Guard members in Kuwait. Their…
- S4E5 - But What Can I Do? · 58 min · Season 4 Episode 5In this episode of Getting to 3rd Space, we are going to try and answer a question we are getting more frequently from friends, followers, listeners, and viewers: “But what can I…
- S4E4 - A Conversation with Liz Weaver · 1 h 27 min · Season 4 Episode 3Liz Weaver joins Lamar and Tom in this episode of Getting to 3rd Space to talk about collaboration, trust, and transitions. Liz retired recently from her role as Co-CEO of…
- S4E3 - Snoping Around · 1 h 1 min · Season 4 Episode 3When you are wondering about rumors, conspiracy theories, folklore, fake news, and urban legends, who ya gonna call? Not us…but how about Snopes.com? Today Lamar and Tom start by…







