About this podcast
‘Making Strides’ is a space to share the experiences of underrepresented and marginalized communities in the sport of running. Join Stefanie Flippin and Carolyn Su in discussions on navigating microaggressions and policing, sponsorship negotiations, mental health, current events, and more.
We hope this podcast serves to fill in the gaps of what might not typically be covered in running industry media, and we hope that through our conversations here, we can be a safe space for learning and a launching pad for making the sport more equitable and inclusive for everyone.
Episodes
The newest 20 of 24 episodes
- Episode 24 - Catching Up! · 1 h 6 minWe’re back! In this episode, we catch up on our summer activities and personal lives, including family trips abroad and ultra races. We also discuss our evolving perspectives on…
- Episode 23 - The Great Power of Representation · 1 h 12 min“I think the experience I had is what EVERY straight, white male has at EVERY race.” Consider this convo as a part-two follow up to our most listened-to episode, "Allyship…
- Episode 22 - LIVE from the We Out Here Trail Fest! · 47 min“We hope that this trail race shows that it is possible to welcome new people to the sport, that trail running doesn't have to be rooted in white culture, that we can show up as…
- Episode 21 - Boston and Beyond! · 1 h 37 minFresh off the Boston Marathon weekend, we talk about EVERYTHING that happened from Thursday to Marathon Monday, including seeing Kara Goucher and Alysia Montaño, fawning over…
- Episode 20 - Where Do We Go From Here? (part 2) · 57 min“We are teaching and showing the next generation that our democracy is important and that it is worth fighting for.” In this episode, we wrestle with how to continue carrying on…
- Episode 19 - Where Do We Go From Here? (part 1) · 1 h 19 min“This is bigger than democrat or republican; we’re all connected. This is about taking care of each other and about the promises we’ve made to each other.” This was an…
- Episode 18 - Happy Women's History Month! · 53 min“As someone who grew up in a time when girls were pitted against each other and seen as competition, I love that we’re in this era where, just being in each other’s corners is…
- Episode 17 - Running and Defiance · 1 h 1 min“We want to believe that, when seeing harm being done, we will rise to the level of our expectations, but the reality is, most of us will fall to the level of our training.”…
- Episode 16 - Values and Representation · 1 h 5 minStaying true to our commitment to record more episodes this year, we hop back on after the Lunar New Year to discuss a variety of topics, ranging from 2025 being Stef’s lucky…
- Episode 15 - The Everything, Everywhere Episode · 1 h 26 minHello, 2025! In this episode, we catch up with each other after the holiday season, and we also discover how we are both in a similar season, in regards to our relationship with…
- Episode 14 - All Things NYC Marathon Weekend! · 1 h 52 minA little overdue, but it’s here: the recap (or…post mortem?!) of everything surrounding this year’s New York City Marathon weekend! Stef and Carolyn breakdown the course…
- Episode 13 - Confidence vs Comparison · 1 h 17 minHello again, everyone! We’re back after a brief break for the summer, and, just like the quick turn into the Fall season, we get right back into racing! In this episode, we talk…
- Episode 12 - Allyship, Intention and Impact · 1 h 7 minA recent article on irunfar.com made quite a splash, when the [white] authors called for feedback on the new 'progressive' initiatives launched by the Pro Trail Runners…
- Episode 11 - The Venn Diagram Overlap · 1 h 5 minStef and I get more into our different experiences growing up as Asian Americans — like how I felt like I was constantly straddling two separate worlds and identities, while Stef…
- Episode 10 - LIVE from the Boston Marathon! · 1 h 35 minBuckle up! You're gonna wanna take notes, because in this convo, Stef and Carolyn talk with the indomitable Kayla Jeter and Charlie Dark! This episode was recorded live, from…
- Episode 9 - LIVE from lululemon Further Ultramarathon! · 1 h 25 minOut in the desert of Palm Springs, CA, a team of ten women set out on a 6-day, ultramarathon, with the goal of breaking world records and going "Further" than any team of women…
- Episode 8 - Baking In Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and Belonging · 53 minHow do you pull a seat up at the Table, when the Table has historically been an unsafe and unwelcome place for you? Join us in another episode of the #MakingStridesPod, where we…
- Episode 7 - Having Peace with our Pace · 43 min“Not everything that counts can be counted.” Carolyn and Stef are back! The first episode of the year includes a lot of reflections on 2023, both personally and professionally…
- Episode 6 - The Invisible Load We Carry · 1 h 3 min · Season 1 Episode 6Carolyn and Stef talk about bearing the impact and invisible load of microaggressions and discrimination, both in running and in life. Is it fair? How to we protect our peace…
- Episode 5: Barriers to Entry · 51 min · Season 1 Episode 5“Even the decision to train for a race is a privilege itself.” Episode 5 of the #MakingStridesPod, ‘Barriers to Entry,’ drops today! In this episode, Stef and I get into how…
