Mystics and Muons
by Mystics and Muons
42: Missy McMurray – Leaving Mormonism, Grief, and Psychedelic Healing
About this podcast
Mystics and Muons is devoted to exploring the nature of reality and the intersection between philosophy, science, and spirituality. At times we also explore the esoteric origins of Mormonism.
While exploring reality, idealism serves as a core model. Materialism, though helpful, is a projection of a deeper fundamental truth. Consciousness is the ground of reality from which the experience of matter, space, and time emerge, just as it does every night as we dream. Models like those of Bernardo Kastrup, Donald Hoffman, Rupert Spira, all point to the fundamental truth of idealism.
Episodes
The newest 20 of 42 episodes
- 42: Missy McMurray – Leaving Mormonism, Grief, and Psychedelic Healing · 1 h 44 min · Episode 42Gabe sits down with licensed Oregon psilocybin facilitator Missy McMurray to explore her journey from devoted Mormonism to meditation, psychedelic healing, and what she calls…
- 41: Karin Valis - AI Alignment, Suffering, and Esoteric Intelligence · 1 h 24 min · Episode 41Gabe reconnects with AI engineer and occultist Karin Valis to explore how rapidly improving models are changing software, creativity, and our relationship with machine…
- 40: The Alchemy of Awakening: Grief, Truth, and Connection · 41 min · Episode 40This is a different kind of episode: a stream-of-consciousness solo processing on the messiness of awakening—religious trauma, ego death, grief, and the raw need for connection…
- 39: Casen Davis – LLMs as Mirrors of Mind and Spirit · 1 h 35 min · Episode 39Gabe is joined by software engineer Casen Davis for a wide-ranging conversation at the edge of machine learning, mysticism, and mind. Bridging the technical and esoteric, they…
- 38: Eben Alexander MD - Near Death Experiences · 1 h 50 min · Season 1 Episode 38In this conversation, Dr. Eben Alexander discusses his journey from a materialist worldview to a deeper understanding of spirituality following his near-death experience. He…
- 37: Karin Valis - AI, Consciousness, and the Occult · 2 h 3 min · Season 1 Episode 37Gabe sits down with AI engineer-occultist Karin Valis to explore the crossroads of artificial intelligence, esoteric practice, and consciousness studies. They start by recalling…
- 36: Robert Prentner: AI Consciousness and the Interface Theory of Perception · 1 h 22 min · Season 1 Episode 36In this conversation, Gabe and Robert Prentner delve into the intricate relationship between consciousness, AI, and perception. They explore the Interface Theory of Perception…
- 35: Exploring Somatic Practices for Emotional Healing · 46 min · Season 1 Episode 35In this podcast episode, Gabe and Vale explore the intersection of somatic practices, emotional regulation, and the impact of cultural differences on parenting and relationships…
- 34: Integrating Scientific and Mystical Views on AI · 1 h 9 min · Season 1 Episode 34In this conversation, Vale joins Gabe to explore the intricate relationship between artificial intelligence and spirituality. They discuss how AI can be viewed as a reflection of…
- 33: Spirituality, Science, Psychology, and Psychedelics: Integrating the Restoration · 1 h 27 min · Episode 33In this episode, I give an expanded version of my 2024 Sunstone Symposium presentation on integrating fields like spirituality, psychology, science, and psychedelics to produce…
- 32: AI Consciousness and Homo Sapiens as the AI of the Mineral World · 29 min · Season 1 Episode 32This is a guided reflection on the intricate relationship between consciousness, humanity, and artificial intelligence. It delves into the creation story of humanity, the impact…
- 31: Plato's Cave Revisited · 28 min · Episode 31Gabe shares personal updates, including his recent marriage and move, and discusses how meaningful it is when listeners reach out. He shares the creation of the Mystics and Muons…
- 30: I Met God at a Festival · 42 min · Episode 1This is a reading of "I Met God at a Festival" published on the Mystics and Muons Substack, wherein I reflect on my peak experiences at ARKADIA, a festival put on by Fit For…
- 29: Phil McLemore - From Mormon Chaplain to Christian Yogi, Awakening, Second Comforter Groups · 2 h 11 min · Episode 29Phil McLemore shares his journey from Catholicism to Mormonism to a deeper spiritual practice through an awakening mediated by meditation and yoga. He discusses his experiences…
- 28: Stephen Fleming - Plato, Joseph Smith, and Mormonism · 1 h 35 min · Episode 28Gabe and Stephen discuss Plato as an influence for Joseph Smith and Mormonism. Stephen describes his journey tracing the roots of Mormonism, and how that led him to research…
- 27: EntheoMagus: Psychedelics, Mystical Experiences, and Early Mormonism · 1 h 32 min · Episode 1I'm joined this episode with the creators behind EntheoMagus, Cody Noconi, Brandon Crockett, and Alex Criddle. EntheoMagus is a short documentary exploring the indications that…
- 26: Michael Levin - Selfhood, Collective Intelligence, Cancer, AI, Ethics · 1 h 0 min · Episode 26Michael Levin joins me to discuss the intersection of computation, biology, and philosophy. We explore different perspectives on reality, the concept of selfhood, and the…
- 25: Mike LeCheminant - Gnostic Branches of Mormonism, Leaving the Mormonism as an Apologist · 1 h 58 min · Episode 25This conversation discusses Mike's time at FAIR as an apologist, and then his faith crisis and departure from Mormonism, as well as his own personal spiritual journey. Mike's…
- 24: Bernardo Kastrup - Entropy, Finding One's Purpose · 2 h 20 min · Episode 24Bernardo joins me to explore the themes of engaging with others, taking the long view, and the nature of knowledge. We discuss the balance between engaging with trolls…
- 23: Keith Gilmore - Psychedelics, Sovereignty, Polarity, and Perspective · 1 h 28 min · Episode 23Gabe and Keith discuss various topics related to personal growth, Oregon's Measure 109 legalizing psilocybin services, and the state of the world. They explore the concept of…







