The CIRS Group Podcast
by thecirsgroup
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About this podcast
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, can happen to 25% of the population and is usually triggered by a biotoxin in the environment, like mold, red tide, lyme (tick bite), and even some medical interventions. Those with CIRS are susceptible to these toxins and cannot clear them on their own. Thankfully, treatment is possible, but given that people suffering with CIRS have difficulty processing new information, we created The CIRS Group and now, this podcast, to help people better understand and identify this treatable illness. Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, 2 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Along with Jacie, she co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis.
Episodes
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- ALS (Lou Gehrig’s Disease) and Environmental Toxins: Cyanobacteria, BMAA, and Possible CIRS Links · 25 min · Episode 176In this CIRS Group podcast episode, Jacie and Barbara discuss ALS (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis), also known as Lou Gehrig’s disease, describing it as a rare, progressive, fatal…
- COVID, Spike Protein, Long COVID & CIRS: Testing options, symptom overlap, and how to feel better! · 46 min · Episode 175Barbara and Jacie discuss COVID, spike protein, long COVID, and possible connections to CIRS. DISCLAIMER: This is educational and not medical advice. Always consult your own…
- Can't tolerate CIRS treatment? How to navigate intensification, stalls, and flares · 33 min · Episode 174Barbara and Jacie discuss what to do when the Shoemaker protocol/CIRS treatment feels intolerable. They stress testing the home (ERMI or HERTSMI-2 dust testing at minimum…
- Dust Testing Showdown!! EnviroBiomics vs Lis Biotech vs Mycometrics (ERMI/HERTSMI-2 Experiment) · 39 min · Episode 173Dust Testing Showdown: EnviroBiomics vs Liz Biotech vs Mycometrics (ERMI/HERTSMI-2 Experiment) In this CIRS Group Podcast episode, Barbara describes a controlled dust-test…
- Tick-Borne Illness & CIRS: testing pitfalls, key symptoms, and how to heal · 40 min · Episode 172Barbara welcomes Dr. Kellyn Milani, a naturopathic doctor and primary care physician specializing in complex environmentally acquired illnesses, to discuss tick-borne illness in…
- Barbara’s CIRS Health Update: Did the Shoemaker Protocol work? · 40 min · Episode 171On today's episode of The CIRS Group Podcast, Barbara shares a health update. She reports a smoother-than-expected recovery from an August 2025 L5-S1 PLIF spinal fusion, major…
- Why Mold Remediation Fails (and how to get it right) with Max McCord on CIRS Building Science · 35 min · Episode 170In this The CIRS Group Podcast episode, hosts Jacie and Barbara interview Max McCord, an indoor environmental professional and president of the Stonecrest Team, about why mold…
- The CIRS Starter Pack: Practical tips to feel better while you heal · 40 min · Episode 169Jacie and Barbara share some suggestions for a “CIRS starter pack” inspired by their community: a menu of practical, non-medical supports to help CIRS patients feel better while…
- CIRS & Insomnia: Why You Can’t Sleep (Low MSH, Melatonin, Cortisol) + Practical Fixes · 26 min · Episode 168Barbara and Jacie discuss insomnia as a common CIRS symptom, explaining that CIRS (Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome) can occur in genetically predisposed people exposed to…
- Building CIRS-aware, mold-resistant homes with Special Guest Brian Tinker · 36 min · Episode 167In this CIRS Group Podcast episode, hosts Jacie and Barbara interview Brian Tinker, founder of Breathe Well Homes and a master builder with 30+ years of experience, whose work…
- Jacie’s Health Update: Actinos, Gut Dysbiosis, and Spike Protein Testing! · 40 min · Episode 166Barbara and Jacie are back, this time to share Jacie’s personal health update while she deals with a CIRS relapse after moving into a new apartment. Jacie describes worsening…
- CIRSx 2026 Recap: Lifestyle tips for recovery from chronic illness - CIRS, mold, and dysregulation · 36 min · Episode 164In this final CIRSx 2026 recap, Jacie and Barbara cover the conference’s lifestyle-focused talks and share takeaways for listeners. They highlight Mike Pelletier's practical…
- CIRSx 2026 Medical Recap: Parkinson’s risk, gut endotoxins, balancing hormones, stalking, & MARCoNs · 44 min · Episode 163Barbara and Jacie continue their CIRSx 2026 recap with the medical talks, emphasizing that the episode should not be considered medical advice and encouraging listeners to…
- CIRSx 2026 Recap: Remediation & building mold-safe homes · 37 min · Episode 162Barbara and Jacie kick off their annual CIRSx 2026 Conference recap series, focusing this episode on remediation and environmental talks, with a reminder to consult an indoor…
- CIRSx 2026 Hot Takes: Weird vibes, corporate shift & our favorite talks · 31 min · Episode 161Barbara and Jacie share “hot takes” after CIRSx 2026 in Fort Lauderdale. Barbara attended in person and Jacie watched virtually. They discuss feeling “weird vibes” and a more…
- MARCoNS in CIRS: Symptoms, testing, treatment options & why it keeps coming back · 39 min · Episode 160In this The CIRS Group Podcast episode, Jacie and Barbara explain MARCoNS (multiple antibiotic resistant coagulase-negative staphylococci) as a common deep nasal colonization in…
- Dr. Andrew Heyman on the Cell Danger Response: Why CIRS Patients Stall & How to Heal Beyond Mold · 56 min · Episode 159On this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara interview Dr. Andrew Heyman about Dr. Naviaux’s cell danger response (CDR) framework and why it can explain…
- Phase 5: Restore brain volume and repair inflammation markers (Shoemaker Protocol Series) · 11 min · Episode 158Barbara and Jacie wrap up their five-part Shoemaker Protocol series with Phase 5: Repair and Restore. This phase focuses on normalizing innate immune markers (MMP-9, C3a, C4a…
- Keys to feeling better: Repair metabolism, detox pathways, hormones & electrolytes · 18 min · Episode 157In this CIRS Group Podcast episode, Jacie and Barbara cover phase four of the Shoemaker Protocol, focused on restoring normal metabolic function after biotoxin elimination. They…
- Break the Cycle of Chronic Mold Illness: treat MARCoNs and repair the gut · 29 min · Episode 156Struggling with stubborn biotoxin illness (CIRS) and feeling stuck in your recovery? In this episode, we break down some of the most important (and often overlooked) steps in the…







