Zero Disturbance
by Kambria Evans, The Teaching & Learning EMDR Consultant
147: When EMDR Isn’t Working: Follow the System [Beneath the…
About this podcast
Listen to the conversations therapists and clients should be having — but often aren’t.
Zero Disturbance is a podcast about what makes therapy truly work.
For therapists, we explore clinical reasoning, case conceptualization, EMDR, and intensive therapy design — so you can think more clearly and work more efficiently.
For clients, we pull back the curtain on the therapy process — helping you understand what effective treatment looks like, what good collaboration feels like, and how to participate actively in your own healing.
Because therapy works best when both people in the room understand the map.
Inside each episode, you’ll hear:
• How strong clinical thinking shapes outcomes
• Why therapy sometimes stalls — and how to fix it
• How intensives and brain-based therapy (EMDR, Brainspotting) can accelerate progress
• What client-therapist collaboration should actually look like
Download our FREE Resource Library at www.zerodisturbance.com/free-resources
About Kambria Evans
Kambria Evans holds a Master’s in Education from Vanderbilt University and has spent over 20 years designing high-impact learning experiences for adult professionals. As former Director of Education and Quality Improvement at Stanford Medical School, she specialized in simplifying complex systems to help trainees succeed.
Today, as a therapist, EMDR Consultant, educator, and mom of twins, Kambria brings that same clarity to the therapy room — helping therapists and clients move toward resolution efficiently, effectively, and with intention.
When she’s not teaching or podcasting, you’ll find her with her twins on a California beach.
Episodes
The newest 20 of 136 episodes
- 147: When EMDR Isn’t Working: Follow the System [Beneath the Protocol Series] · 33 minStop Being Afraid of the Door: A New Way to Think About EMDR What happens when you approach a target in EMDR and instead of getting the response you expected, the client floods…
- 146: What If Your EMDR Resources Stop Working? [Beneath the Protocol Series] · 19 minWhat if the resources you installed in EMDR Phase 2 aren't supposed to last forever? In this episode of the Beneath the Protocol series, Kambria Evans explores why Phase 2 of…
- 145: EMDR & Peak Performance [Beneath the Protocol Series] · 26 minWhat if performance problems aren't actually skill problems? In this episode of the Zero Disturbance Podcast, Kambria Evans explores how EMDR and other brain-based therapies can…
- 144: When Insight Isn’t Enough [Beneath The Protocol Series] · 16 minYou can understand why you do something and still feel completely unable to change it. In this episode of Beneath the Protocol, Kambria Evans explores what happens when…
- 143: What If EMDR Isn't Just About Memories? [Beneath The Protocol Series] · 19 minWhat if EMDR processing isn't only about autobiographical memories? In this episode of the Zero Disturbance Podcast, Kambria Evans explores how the nervous system communicates…
- 142: Beyond the Target: What Is Your Nervous System Organized Around? [Beneath the Protocol Series] · 19 minIn this episode of the Zero Disturbance Podcast, Kambria Evans explores what happens when we look beyond the traditional EMDR target and begin thinking about nervous system…
- 141: Did I choose the wrong EMDR target? [Beneath the Protocol Series] · 12 minOne of the biggest questions therapists ask after EMDR basic training is: "Did I choose the wrong target?" In this episode of the Zero Disturbance Podcast, Kambria Evans…
- 140: Can You Do EMDR on Yourself? [Beneath the Protocol Series] · 14 minCan you do EMDR on yourself? It's one of the most common questions therapists and clients ask—but the answer isn't simply yes or no. In this episode of the Zero Disturbance…
- 139: The EMDR Processing Myth [Beneath The Protocol] · 13 minProcessing Doesn't Only Happen in Phase 4 Many EMDR therapists were taught that processing begins in Phase 4. But what if that assumption is limiting your clinical…
- 138: Trauma Isn't a Box [Beneath the Protocol Series] · 14 minFor decades, trauma therapy has centered around one core assumption: find the trauma, process the trauma, and healing follows. But what if that's only part of the story? In…
- 137: The Content Trap [Beneath The Protocol Series] · 15 minDoes healing happen because clients understand their story… Or because their nervous system reorganizes? In this episode of the Beneath the Protocol series, Kambria Evans…
- 136: EMDR and Positive Processing [Beneath The Protocol Series] · 12 minWhy does therapy always have to feel painful for healing to happen? Many clinicians have been trained to associate therapeutic progress with distress, emotional intensity, and…
- 135: Brain-Based Therapy: Stop Saying This, Start Saying This [Beneath the Protocol Series] · 18 minMany therapy models helped us understand that symptoms make sense, pain deserves attention, and trauma matters. But what happens when therapy becomes organized only around…
- 134: Beyond EMDR Targets: The Portal Shift in Trauma Therapy [Beneath The Protocol Series] · 13 minMost trauma therapies teach clinicians to start with a target. A memory. A scene. A belief. A moment that can be identified and processed. But what happens when the nervous…
- 133: EMDR Targeting Explained: Memory vs. Systems Approach [Beneath the Protocol Series] · 18 minIn this episode of the Beneath the Protocol series, Kambria Evans explores one of the most common points of confusion for EMDR therapists: target selection. While EMDR training…
- 132: When EMDR Targets Stop Making Sense [Beneath The Protocol Series] · 20 minOne of the biggest frustrations EMDR clinicians face is the feeling that sessions aren't unfolding the way they were taught in basic training. You identify a target. You start…
- 131: Beyond EMDR: The System Beneath It [Beneath The Protocol Series] · 20 minAre therapy protocols actually neutral? In this episode of the Zero Disturbance Podcast, Kambria Evans explores the hidden value systems behind EMDR, Brainspotting, ART, and…
- 130: EMDR Feels Harder Than It Should—Here’s Why [Beneath The Protocol Series] · 16 minIf you’ve ever felt like you’re constantly adjusting, rescuing, or managing your EMDR sessions… this episode will change how you see everything. In this episode of the Zero…
- 129: What EMDR Training Didn’t Teach You [Beneath the Protocol Series] · 21 minWhy does EMDR feel so confusing after basic training—even when you’re “doing it right”? In this episode of the Zero Disturbance Podcast, Kambria Evans breaks down the 10 most…
- 128: The Truth About Dissociation in EMDR [Beneath the Protocol Series] · 23 minWhy does EMDR sometimes feel like it stops working? In this episode of the Zero Disturbance podcast, Kambria Evans breaks down one of the most misunderstood concepts in EMDR and…







